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Offline fesmule

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Anyone filled/repaired their mft?
« on: November 08, 2014, 01:19 PM »
Hi everyone,
this is my first post so please be gentle  [smile]

Having recently bought a festool MFT, (video by Mr Parfitt convinced me)
I unwittingly, read stupidly, made a couple of deepish cut next to each other in the surface,
I was wondering if wood filler, or a thin slither of wood glued into the affected area would work.
I do appreciate the top is sacrificial, I'm just a bit peeved off that I made such a numpty mistake!
Any advice or ideas appreciated.

PS I must just say, I've been stalking here for a while, this forum is a quality product,
will help with our long dark winter evenings I'm sure. [thumbs up]

Cheers All
Tony
« Last Edit: November 08, 2014, 01:25 PM by fesmule »

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Offline Billedis

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Re: Anyone filled/repaired their mft?
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2014, 01:25 PM »
Just turn it over.  Bill

Offline grbmds

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Re: Anyone filled/repaired their mft?
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2014, 01:30 PM »
Judging from other posts, it appears that many (or even most) of us have done this; some worse than others. I'd just use it as is until the whole top is beyond use and then flip it over (that is, unless you cut all the way through).
Randy

Offline fesmule

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Re: Anyone filled/repaired their mft?
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2014, 01:30 PM »
Just turn it over.  Bill
Thanks Bill, lol.
I've only just got the darn thing [big grin]
I can live with the cuts, just move the rail over a touch, was just curious if
anyone had bothered with what I was suggesting, perhaps I'm just a sad bugger
and should just ignore it  [big grin]

Offline fesmule

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Re: Anyone filled/repaired their mft?
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2014, 01:33 PM »
Judging from other posts, it appears that many (or even most) of us have done this; some worse than others. I'd just use it as is until the whole top is beyond use and then flip it over (that is, unless you cut all the way through).

Thanks.
I didn't go through, perhaps 1/4 of an inch deep, obviously it's not the end of the world.
Cheers
Tony

Offline greg mann

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Re: Anyone filled/repaired their mft?
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2014, 01:51 PM »
There are gravel roads in northern Canada that are notorious for windshield
damage. Some folks crack theirs at purchase time to avoid disappointment later.
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Offline neilc

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Re: Anyone filled/repaired their mft?
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2014, 01:53 PM »
Some have used Bondo to fill in the cut areas.  I seem to recall one FOG user making a replaceable insert that was routed into the top perhaps 3/8" or maybe 1/2" that could be replaced in time.

It's a workbench and I think using it and eventually flipping or replacing the top is the best way to get the most out of it.

Offline downtheroad

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Re: Anyone filled/repaired their mft?
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2014, 02:02 PM »
The late Joe Fusco showed his method of filling saw kerfs in his mft.

Tony

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Re: Anyone filled/repaired their mft?
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2014, 02:08 PM »
I used 2-part epoxy wood filler to fill in a deepish cut in my MFT top. I worked the stuff together so it was well mixed and forced it into the cut using a bladed screw driver. Worked great.
Birdhunter

Offline EricT

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Re: Anyone filled/repaired their mft?
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2014, 02:13 PM »
Just curious to see how many people are using the method Paul Marcel posted in his video about his mft where he cuts in the same place every time.  Assuming you're using a consistent thickness of saw blade, looks like it works well.  I don't have an mft - yet.  Just wondering what you guys are up to!

Offline jobsworth

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Re: Anyone filled/repaired their mft?
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2014, 02:19 PM »
I used bondo.

Offline Cross-cut Canuck

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Re: Anyone filled/repaired their mft?
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2014, 02:39 PM »
I bought my table used and it was cut up a bit with mutiple cuts leaving about 3/4" wide criss cross gap about 1/4 to 3/8" deep, I used wood filler and sanded flush just to unsure the blade has zero clearance. I just want the "new to me" look and achieve as much dust collection as possible. maybe santa will send me new top [smile] eventualy. but this will get me by.

I like the idea of routing a small replacable strip out and replacing, thx

cheers
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Offline Brent Taylor

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Re: Anyone filled/repaired their mft?
« Reply #12 on: November 08, 2014, 03:07 PM »
I second the Bondo idea, I'd used it on a lot of repairs in interior and exterior apps. It work in MDF. B

Offline Cross-cut Canuck

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Re: Anyone filled/repaired their mft?
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2014, 03:25 PM »
stupid question from a novice, what the pros and cons of wood filler vs bondo?

thx
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Re: Anyone filled/repaired their mft?
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2014, 03:48 PM »
Hi Tony

I know exactly how you feel - when I bought my MFT3 it was a difficult decision and then when it was delivered I was so proud to have it. But, then came one or two little mishaps and I was starting to feel the way you do now.

All I can say to help is - forget it. Mine now looks like a disaster area and I no longer hesitate to use it the way that Mr Festool intended. It gets oil, saw cuts, drill holes and the odd bit of sweat on it and it just smiles back at me and says "bring it on buddy..."

The only possible reason for watching the kerf marks is if you are trying to use the surface of the MFT3 as a zero clearance splinter guard. That said, my TS 55 is cutting so cleanly despite the MFT3 and my other saw station surface being so bad that I reckon the bottom line is - don't worry about it.

In 6 months time you will feel the way I do.

Peter

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Re: Anyone filled/repaired their mft?
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2014, 04:47 PM »
stupid question from a novice, what the pros and cons of wood filler vs bondo?

thx

I am going to venture a guess that reasons could include:  Non water solvent and faster drying / curing and also perhaps easier to work (smoother)   when applying and easier sanding in some cases.

I am a kerf guy myself.

Peter

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Re: Anyone filled/repaired their mft?
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2014, 05:42 PM »
the first cut into the mft marks the tables worthyness. you can go on with life beating it and not worry so much and get more work done. dont feel soo bad i cut into the extrusion and the fence too AND left a drink on it without a coaster lol within the first month.
When youre feeling depressed just treat yourself to a systainer even if its a mini systainer its ok.

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Offline Jesse Cloud

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Re: Anyone filled/repaired their mft?
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2014, 06:02 PM »
I've gone through a few tops on my two mfts.  First one I bondo-ed up.  Then I flipped.  These days I just pretty much let it ride.

BTW, don't throw the old one away.  Cut off any sizable pieces that are relatively whole and use them for jigs - they are great for that!!

Offline fesmule

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Re: Anyone filled/repaired their mft?
« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2014, 06:15 PM »
Thanks guys for all your interesting and helpful responses, it is appreciated.
I've now got my first post out of the way, Phew!, actually it wasn't too
bad. [smile]

Being a non pro woodworker with an awful lot to learn I'm really looking forward
to spending more time here.

Thanks again.

cheers
Tony

Offline sae

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Re: Anyone filled/repaired their mft?
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2014, 06:32 PM »
stupid question from a novice, what the pros and cons of wood filler vs bondo?

thx

Just say no to Bondo, in all applications, ever. It's hygroscopic and will expand over time. It's also is formulated w/ styrene monomers, which attacks your central nervous system and builds up in your liver and causes lung cancer.

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Re: Anyone filled/repaired their mft?
« Reply #20 on: November 09, 2014, 03:25 AM »
I bought my table used and it was cut up a bit with mutiple cuts leaving about 3/4" wide criss cross gap about 1/4 to 3/8" deep, I used wood filler and sanded flush just to unsure the blade has zero clearance. I just want the "new to me" look and achieve as much dust collection as possible. maybe santa will send me new top [smile] eventualy. but this will get me by.

I like the idea of routing a small replacable strip out and replacing, thx

cheers

I was using that idea for a while. I routed a approx 2" wide by about 3/8" groove in the cutting area of my MFT. Dove Tailed the edges then cut a piece of wood, planed to fit. It worked good for a while, I just got tired of replacing it all the time. So I flipped the table over and just cut into the top. Im even getting tired of protecting the top and Im gonna start using it like it was designed for, to be cut into. then replace.
The tops are cheap enough now.

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Re: Anyone filled/repaired their mft?
« Reply #21 on: November 09, 2014, 03:26 AM »
stupid question from a novice, what the pros and cons of wood filler vs bondo?

thx

Never tried wood filler, bondo is cheap, hard and smooth

Offline Laminator

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Re: Anyone filled/repaired their mft?
« Reply #22 on: November 10, 2014, 10:50 PM »
Bondo dries quicker and shrinks less (if any) and sands easily with 80 grit belt or rotex.  I fill the kerf when I need zero clearance for clean cuts, usually 2 sided melamine.
« Last Edit: November 10, 2014, 10:53 PM by Laminator »

Offline Bert Vanderveen

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Re: Anyone filled/repaired their mft?
« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2014, 07:40 AM »
In my area of the world you can buy MFT Filler. That’s what I used before deciding repairing the top wasn’t worth the effort. I consider the gashes and such ‘battle scars’.
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Re: Anyone filled/repaired their mft?
« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2014, 08:59 AM »
Hello Bert,

I think you mean MDF Filler instead of MFT Filler?
Otherwise it should be made by Festool?

I also use the MDF Filler for my MFT grooves, holes and scratches.
Although I'm disappointed in the MFT plate with the resistance against water, glue or paint.
The MDF swells very quickly and has to be sanded afterwards to get a flat surface.
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Offline Bert Vanderveen

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Re: Anyone filled/repaired their mft?
« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2014, 09:03 AM »
Oops… silly mistake, that.
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Offline mcooley

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Re: Anyone filled/repaired their mft?
« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2014, 09:26 AM »
Great idea, thanks!


I've gone through a few tops on my two mfts.  First one I bondo-ed up.  Then I flipped.  These days I just pretty much let it ride.

BTW, don't throw the old one away.  Cut off any sizable pieces that are relatively whole and use them for jigs - they are great for that!!