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Offline Spandex

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New product teaser on Facebook
« on: June 21, 2020, 05:57 PM »
Saw this on the Festool UK Facebook page:

Offline Scott in Bend

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2020, 06:26 PM »
My uninformed guess is a Cordless Planex drywall sander.

Offline TwelvebyTwenty

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2020, 06:31 PM »
My uninformed guess is a Cordless Planex drywall sander.

Same thought crossed my mind. But then I saw the guy was carrying a corded extractor - so unless it's a particularly poorly imagined marketing image then likely not a cordless product.

Online rmhinden

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2020, 08:58 PM »
Must be something to do with the color of his shoelaces :-)

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Offline morts10n

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2020, 10:38 PM »
I think it is a double wide T-loc systainer that holds
2 regular systainers inside

Offline DeformedTree

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2020, 12:05 AM »
Everyone always hopes the answer is a puppy, so I'm going to go with a wiener dog to show off the new form factor ability, the old ones could only carry pugs.

Offline jobsworth

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2020, 12:10 AM »
Lunch?

Offline Gregor

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2020, 03:03 AM »
Because of the unfinished drywall scenario I would guess some kind of Planex, now new in a systainer.

Offline aloysius

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2020, 04:57 AM »
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Offline Spandex

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2020, 06:30 AM »
Because of the unfinished drywall scenario I would guess some kind of Planex, now new in a systainer.
Probably the most likely scenario... I suspect Festool’s definition of a ‘new tool’ is probably a little different to mine.

I don’t think the corded extractor in shot completely rules out a cordless tool, given that Festool have been adding Bluetooth to their extractors and batteries recently, but if it’s a Planex I don’t see much benefit to going cordless as it’s the type of tool that will never be used without extraction.

Offline CeeJay

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2020, 07:08 AM »
It’s the battery pack for that cordless CT26 he’s carrying....


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Offline DeformedTree

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2020, 10:58 AM »
Because of the unfinished drywall scenario I would guess some kind of Planex, now new in a systainer.

That is the most obvious answer (they probably want to get rid of the old classic maxi container), but it's not the fun answer.

Online Cheese

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2020, 11:03 AM »
That is the most obvious answer (they probably want to get rid of the old classic maxi container), but it's not the fun answer.

This would be the fun answer but produced in Yellow Green RAL 6018.

« Last Edit: June 26, 2020, 10:48 AM by Cheese »

Offline Gregor

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2020, 01:49 PM »
This would be the fun answer only in Yellow Green RAL 6018.
For 'when the concrete guys messed up beyond recovery' ?

Offline rst

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2020, 03:07 PM »
No for  when  the  architect forgot to put a door in the masons plans

Offline Spandex

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2020, 07:38 AM »
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Offline DeformedTree

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2020, 09:39 PM »
No for  when  the  architect forgot to put a door in the masons plans

No, for when the GC has to remove the architect from the wall cavity the masons put the architect in after he proposed changes after the wall was built.

Offline ear3

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2020, 10:59 PM »
If it's a cordless Planex, I hope to god it doesn't have custom batteries like they developed for the sanders, and instead are just using the normal 18V ones.
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Offline TinyShop

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #18 on: June 30, 2020, 02:58 AM »
Good grief folks. The systainer pictured is a new size offering, that's it. Nothing inside, just an empty oversized systainer. It was thoroughly discussed elsewhere on the FOG many months ago. The forum's search function is your friend.
ETS 150/5 EQ (DE) [po], TS 75 EQ (DE) [po], OF 1400 EQ-F (DE) [n], CXS (DE) [n], CMS-GE [DE] [po], CMS TS 75 (DE) [n], LA-CS 50/CMS (DE) [po], VB-CMS (DE) [n], MFT/3 (CZ) [n], DF 700 EQ w/Seneca Small Mortise Kit (DE) [po], FEIN Multimaster 350 QSL (DE) [n], Bosch 1274DVS w/dust collection, sanding frame,  stand & fence (CH) [n], BOSCH 1590EVS w/dust collection (CH) [n], CS Unitec CS 1445 HEPA extractor <re-branded Starmix ISP 1435 H> (DE) [n], CT SYS (DE) [po], Milwaukee 0302-20 (US) [n], Two (2) Porter Cable 862 (TW) [n], Porter Cable 447 (US) [n], Zyliss Vise (CH) [nos], Hitachi C 8FB (JP) [h], Walko 4 MKII (NL) [nos], Festool MFS 400 w/add-on 700 profiles & router slide (DE) [n], Festool RAS 115 (DE) [n]

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Offline Spandex

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #19 on: June 30, 2020, 03:23 AM »
I think you may have misunderstood the Festool teasers. The XXL systainer is already in the shops over here - that’s not the ‘new tool’ that Festool are talking about. The new tool is what’s inside, as they explicitly state in the teaser adverts.

Take a look at the second teaser I posted.

Offline PaulMarcel

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #20 on: June 30, 2020, 03:33 AM »
Sometimes we just wanna have fun hypothesizing what could be in the box even if it doesn't make sense. Let us have some fun... <goes and sulks admiring his only SysMaxi tool (BS-75) wondering what else he could get>  [tongue]
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Offline Spandex

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #21 on: June 30, 2020, 03:44 AM »
I mean, I’m 99% certain this is about a Planex that has been tweaked just enough that Festool can pretend it’s new but not enough for us to actually find it interesting when it’s announced. But it’s definitely about the contents of the box, not the box itself.

Offline Euclid

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #22 on: June 30, 2020, 04:51 AM »
So it's not the new autonomous robotic self-propelled, self-guided sander then?
Pity, I was looking forward to that.

Offline AstroKeith

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2020, 05:19 AM »
The Planex 225 already has a Systainer solution (photo below) - it doesn't need such a big one as the XXL either. I use an XXL to house all my jigs, including MFS700,400 & 200.
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Offline AstroKeith

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2020, 05:20 AM »
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Offline Roachmill

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2020, 05:25 AM »
An inside source has let slip what's in the box. Pricing should be around the $400 / £450 mark and a release date of Q3.



It also explains the extractor in the photos to pick up the sharpenings  :)

Offline Bob D.

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2020, 06:26 AM »
An inside source has let slip what's in the box. Pricing should be around the $400 / £450 mark and a release date of Q3.



It also explains the extractor in the photos to pick up the sharpenings  :)

I gotta have one of those FT pencil sharpeners. Are they on eKat and what is the part number? :-)
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Offline Doug S

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #27 on: June 30, 2020, 07:01 AM »
Some kind of folding workbench would be nice.

Offline cpw

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2020, 07:17 AM »
The second teaser has a metal bit showing that seems like it could be a Planex extension to me.

Offline TinyShop

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2020, 08:00 AM »
@Spandex - oops, my apologies.
ETS 150/5 EQ (DE) [po], TS 75 EQ (DE) [po], OF 1400 EQ-F (DE) [n], CXS (DE) [n], CMS-GE [DE] [po], CMS TS 75 (DE) [n], LA-CS 50/CMS (DE) [po], VB-CMS (DE) [n], MFT/3 (CZ) [n], DF 700 EQ w/Seneca Small Mortise Kit (DE) [po], FEIN Multimaster 350 QSL (DE) [n], Bosch 1274DVS w/dust collection, sanding frame,  stand & fence (CH) [n], BOSCH 1590EVS w/dust collection (CH) [n], CS Unitec CS 1445 HEPA extractor <re-branded Starmix ISP 1435 H> (DE) [n], CT SYS (DE) [po], Milwaukee 0302-20 (US) [n], Two (2) Porter Cable 862 (TW) [n], Porter Cable 447 (US) [n], Zyliss Vise (CH) [nos], Hitachi C 8FB (JP) [h], Walko 4 MKII (NL) [nos], Festool MFS 400 w/add-on 700 profiles & router slide (DE) [n], Festool RAS 115 (DE) [n]

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Offline Koamolly

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2020, 11:14 AM »
An inside source has let slip what's in the box. Pricing should be around the $400 / £450 mark and a release date of Q3.



It also explains the extractor in the photos to pick up the sharpenings  :)

Can only be used with Festool's proprietary sized marking instruments made from the same wood as the Sipo Domino Tenons and graphite that impregnates the anti static fittings. There’s also an optional dust collection system available and a cordless Bluetooth rotating motor attachment.

Offline HarveyWildes

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2020, 12:11 PM »
An inside source has let slip what's in the box. Pricing should be around the $400 / £450 mark and a release date of Q3.



It also explains the extractor in the photos to pick up the sharpenings  :)

Can only be used with Festool's proprietary sized marking instruments made from the same wood as the Sipo Domino Tenons and graphite that impregnates the anti static fittings. There’s also an optional dust collection system available and a cordless Bluetooth rotating motor attachment.


Cool - Are the new marking instruments also battery operated?  And what about lead - Do we have a variety of colors and hardness?  If so, will there be variety packs or will we have to buy them in packs of 50?  What about inks?  An ink sharpener would be a huge technology advance.  Do all the leads use the same eraser, or are there specialty erasers for different leads?  And of course we all want to know if there is a Leadotec system for quickly changing from one lead to another - if so, I would expect it to flawlessly align with the rotating motor attachment so that the point is always precise and perfectly centered.  I'm also thinking that a track attachment would be useful for drawing straight lines, and perhaps a Shaper Origin accessory that allows you to use it as a large-format printer.


Woohoo!  I see a job opportunity designing stuff for Festool in my future!  (or not...)


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Offline elfick

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #32 on: June 30, 2020, 12:14 PM »
I think the background of the photos is the key, un-sanded drywall mud. My money is on new Planex that combines the capabilities of the LHS and LHS-E into a single unit that doesn't need to be assembled to use with the reach of the LHS but the ease of the LHS-E. The machine and all attachments plus the hose being able to fit in the systainer XXL.

Offline threesixright

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #33 on: June 30, 2020, 03:27 PM »
Just rumor around the brand. Whats inside is irrelevant. IMO.

As long as they (us) talk about it....


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Offline live4ever

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #34 on: June 30, 2020, 03:37 PM »
Definitely cordless Planex.
Current systainer to productivity ratio:  very high

Offline Master Carpenter

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #35 on: June 30, 2020, 05:39 PM »
The background is just to throw you off. It’s a table saw.

Offline GarryMartin

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #36 on: July 01, 2020, 03:52 AM »
From the social media posts this morning, looks like it's a new Planex with LED ring light on the head. Still corded. Somewhat disappointing to be honest unless there are some other great new features.

Offline Alex

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #37 on: July 01, 2020, 04:29 AM »
looks like it's a new Planex with LED ring light on the head.

Hmmm, looks like one of those things where it doesn't mean you should, just because you can.

First, when you put a light source this close to the material it will not improve your visibility because now the shadows are all distorted. When you look at a wall you don't put your eye on the wall, you look at it from a distance. When you want to MAKE the wall to look nice, you must do it under the same circumstances as when people look at it when it is finished. This means people look at it from a distance, and light comes from a distance.

Second, on the video the LED light looks pretty yellow. There was once a time all there was were these huge 500w & 1000w halogen building site lamps, and while they gave a lot of light, it was always very yellow, in the 2700K range. Now we've got these perfect small LED bulbs, 15 watt and an output of 2000 lumens at 5000K. These make a perfect lighting for building and painting, colours look very natural and they are so bright everything is very well visible. I always have 2 or 3 of them burning when I work. This Planex LED light would interfere with that light.

Putting a light on everything is ridiculous and counterproductive. I severly dislike lights on drills, I mean, sometimes they're useful when you quickly want to put a screw in a closet somewhere, but when you're doing some serious work you have good lighting anyway, and then most of the time that drill light is distorting the natural light that's already there. But for a Planex, who's going to do a professional wall job with very expensive equipment and then pass on bringing good light?
 

Offline Svar

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #38 on: July 01, 2020, 06:17 AM »
looks like it's a new Planex with LED ring light on the head.
First, when you put a light source this close to the material it will not improve your visibility because now the shadows are all distorted.
That's the point. It's not about visibility or color. If you want to inspect the surface and highlight defects, you put the object under raking light, a light at an oblique angle almost parallel to the surface. Festool even makes STL450 specifically for this purpose.
« Last Edit: July 01, 2020, 06:24 AM by Svar »

Offline Roachmill

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #39 on: July 01, 2020, 07:15 AM »

Offline Spandex

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #40 on: July 01, 2020, 07:54 AM »
As Svar says, if you want to highlight surface imperfections, you want the light source as close to the surface as possible, so that even tiny defects cast a disproportionately large shadow. Inspecting the surface under ‘normal’ viewing conditions (from a distance, with distant natural or domestic lighting) is the last thing you want to do, because as soon as the customer stands close to their wall, or runs their hand over it, they’ll notice all the defects you missed.

Offline mrB

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #41 on: July 01, 2020, 08:34 AM »
there's nothing like the right tool for the job

Offline jimbo51

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #42 on: July 01, 2020, 08:40 AM »
Back in the day, when I was young and making good money working, I would be very tempted by the right angle sander. On the other hand, maybe I will be tempted anyway.


Offline DeformedTree

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #43 on: July 01, 2020, 03:00 PM »
Does a planex take down material like that in one pass or is that editing magic?

So does this mean the routers might get a light by 2030?

Offline PaulMarcel

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Re: New product teaser on Facebook
« Reply #44 on: July 01, 2020, 06:42 PM »
@Roachmill That "positioning aid" for the ETS-125 would be so useful if it fit the Pro-5 sander. Will have to bug HQ when that comes out. I'd get the 90º jig and leave it on that sander.
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