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Offline FestitaMakool

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New OF-1010 REBQ
« on: May 03, 2021, 11:59 AM »
Seems there’s been a silent release of the well known OF 1010.
Nothing big it seems, but an up to date dust port, the base seems all new as everything is in another place now. No mention of LED light though, it would have been nice  [huh]

https://www.festool.com/products/routing/routers/576919---of-1010-ebqr-plus#Overview
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Offline FestitaMakool

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Re: New OF-1010 REBQ
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2021, 12:05 PM »
One interesting thing though, in a couple of photos there appears to be a new rail, with cutouts.
Template of some sort?

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Offline DynaGlide

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Re: New OF-1010 REBQ
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2021, 12:11 PM »
It appears there's at least one new threaded hole on the base. My first thought was to allow the LR-32 to attach with screws like the OF 1400 but there's a media picture of them using it with the LR-32, with the clamping collars.

That guide rail is interesting. .must be something important for the re-design.
« Last Edit: May 03, 2021, 12:15 PM by DynaGlide »
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Offline Svar

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Re: New OF-1010 REBQ
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2021, 12:14 PM »
One interesting thing though, in a couple of photos there appears to be a new rail, with cutouts.
Template of some sort?
A routing accident?   [unsure] [big grin]

Offline Frank-Jan

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Re: New OF-1010 REBQ
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2021, 12:51 PM »
According to the accessories list it still uses the same copy rings, so no quickchange... you have to wait forever for an update but they skip the most important part.

The protection around the depthstop-rod, so it won't bend as easily when dropped, and the dustport for a 36 mm hose are improvements.

Pity they changed the metal housing, it looked cooler.

Offline squall_line

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Re: New OF-1010 REBQ
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2021, 12:54 PM »
They show it with the MFS routing guide, too.

Teases...

There's a set that includes an FS 800 rail, and another that includes the rail plus a router bit box.

And it has a ROUND dust port!

"Available July", but it doesn't say which year... ;)

Offline Imemiter

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Re: New OF-1010 REBQ
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2021, 01:03 PM »
My first thought was to allow the LR-32 to attach with screws like the OF 1400...

Be still my heart. That, a light, ratcheting collet and one-knob rails stop would be too much to ask for, but a guy can dream. :)
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Offline Cheese

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Re: New OF-1010 REBQ
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2021, 01:25 PM »
The router speed range has changed completely, from 10,000-23,000 rpm to 6,500-26,000 rpm.

Offline DynaGlide

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Re: New OF-1010 REBQ
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2021, 01:33 PM »
My first thought was to allow the LR-32 to attach with screws like the OF 1400...

Be still my heart. That, a light, ratcheting collet and one-knob rails stop would be too much to ask for, but a guy can dream. :)

The dust port is nice but not enough for me to upgrade. If they allowed the new 1010 to screw down to the LR-32 base I'd do it though. I don't trust the little clamping collars.
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Offline FestitaMakool

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Re: New OF-1010 REBQ
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2021, 01:45 PM »
One interesting thing though, in a couple of photos there appears to be a new rail, with cutouts.
Template of some sort?
A routing accident?   [unsure] [big grin]

Frank from Festool and the photographer had a mishap? New inventions often comes from accidents  [big grin]

The router speed range has changed completely, from 10,000-23,000 rpm to 6,500-26,000 rpm.
I noticed too.. deliberately or just better motor/electronics? Any idea to wich tasks a lower rpm would benefit from?
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Offline RustE

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Re: New OF-1010 REBQ
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2021, 01:46 PM »
One interesting thing though, in a couple of photos there appears to be a new rail, with cutouts.


Appears that the ‘channel’ along the edge was removed too?

Wonder if this rail has something to do with the new TS 55 anti-kickback mechanism?

Offline FestitaMakool

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Re: New OF-1010 REBQ
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2021, 01:50 PM »
And.. it has gotten anti restart protection in case of power loss..
- That means Festool can start making new inventory of CMS again.. [blink] (of course by making mounting options proprietary..)
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Offline Cheese

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Re: New OF-1010 REBQ
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2021, 02:14 PM »
I noticed too.. deliberately or just better motor/electronics? Any idea to wich tasks a lower rpm would benefit from?

Well I notice that they now say the 1010 R has a max capacity of 2" diameter which they never stated before. Also the rebating head is 50 mm in diameter and so trying a first pass at 6,500 would make me feel better than the first pass at 10,000. On stuff that large I'd just as soon start off slow and then ramp it up to a faster speed.

The slower speed may also make machining solid aluminum bar more friendly. It probably doesn't make a difference if you're routing Alubond, ACP stuff.

I have gotten some weird harmonics going when routing aluminum bar. Again I'd start slower and then increase the speed...you can tell when you're in the sweet spot. The harmonics were so bad that once it completely loosened up the collet and the router bit dropped out...goodbye Amana router bit.  [sad]
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Offline squall_line

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Re: New OF-1010 REBQ
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2021, 02:43 PM »
I'd expect Sedge will cover so much about the new OF 1010 in an upcoming Festool Live.

The Recon thread is going to have to suffer through yet another SKU to look for/worry about in the future. ;). Quite possibly a lot of non-R 1010's coming back through the system in late June/early July.

Are 1010 routers the kind of thing that Festool would be sending out to their "influencer" partners for early access reviews?  It seems a bit more pricey than when they released the TID-18 into the wild in that manner...

Edited to add... Nothing on FUSA site yet; if available in July in Europe, I wonder when it's coming to the US.  You Europeans seem to get much larger and nicer sets to buy from the factory, too...
« Last Edit: May 03, 2021, 02:50 PM by squall_line »

Offline FestitaMakool

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Re: New OF-1010 REBQ
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2021, 03:08 PM »
I noticed too.. deliberately or just better motor/electronics? Any idea to wich tasks a lower rpm would benefit from?

Well I notice that they now say the 1010 R has a max capacity of 2" diameter which they never stated before. Also the rebating head is 50 mm in diameter and so trying a first pass at 6,500 would make me feel better than the first pass at 10,000. On stuff that large I'd just as soon start off slow and then ramp it up to a faster speed.

The slower speed may also make machining solid aluminum bar more friendly. It probably doesn't make a difference if you're routing Alubond, ACP stuff.

I have gotten some weird harmonics going when routing aluminum bar. Again I'd start slower and then increase the speed...you can tell when you're in the sweet spot. The harmonics were so bad that once it completely loosened up the collet and the router bit dropped out...goodbye Amana router bit.  [sad]

Interesting, I have noted the rebating head. Waiting for an excuse to buy it.. (I know I don’t REALLY need an excuse [big grin])

Then, really nothing bad happened when the bit loosened? Not to you or any surroundings?
Thats the thing that scares me about routers, the speed and mass in possibly sudden no control..
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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: New OF-1010 REBQ
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2021, 05:36 PM »
The router speed range has changed completely, from 10,000-23,000 rpm to 6,500-26,000 rpm.

I like the lower speed. Ive used my old 1000 to plunge cut plug holes with a forester bit when I needed the best quality holes. Would have been less nervous at 6500rpm.

Also like the native 36mm dust port.

ditto the wish for a light.

Offline DeformedTree

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Re: New OF-1010 REBQ
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2021, 08:24 PM »
New OF-1010 router is a heck of a way to trick people into buying systainer 3.   [tongue]

Offline ScotF

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Re: New OF-1010 REBQ
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2021, 12:29 AM »
New body and depth stop. Not sure it is worth an upgrade from the current model. But, it looks cool and will likely still be a nice machine with its new configuration.

Offline usernumber1

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Re: New OF-1010 REBQ
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Offline CeeJay

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Re: New OF-1010 REBQ
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2021, 07:43 AM »
That’s the old copy guide isn’t it?


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Offline mino

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Re: New OF-1010 REBQ
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2021, 07:43 AM »
Happy did not pull the trigger last year. This looks sweet.

 + lower top as well as bottom speed, would expect better torque too, if only a bit
 + better dust port

Ref the leaked rail, I can imagine it being a "slot" for replaceable LR32 "templates". You pop-in a template with a custom pattern and use the LR32 slide for non-32mm stuff.
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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: New OF-1010 REBQ
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2021, 10:50 AM »
is this new? looks neat, maybe it can be added to any version of 1010

https://festoolcdn.azureedge.net/productmedia/Images/jpg_large/1dea7512-7697-11eb-8114-005056b31774_1600_1066.jpg



I’ve never seen the value in a rig like that, or in the tiny bit shown that is likely to burn the wood at the point. I suspect this is a carry over from six decades ago when it was expensive to put a ball bearing on every router bit.

Offline mino

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Re: New OF-1010 REBQ
« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2021, 12:19 PM »
I’ve never seen the value in a rig like that, or in the tiny bit shown that is likely to burn the wood at the point. I suspect this is a carry over from six decades ago when it was expensive to put a ball bearing on every router bit.
IMO it does not truly replace a bearing bit. It will never be as stiff.

But it is way more generic, allowing to use reference surface something far from the bit. One of those "I will avoid using it when possible but still want to have it around" accessories.
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Offline guybo

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Re: New OF-1010 REBQ
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2021, 01:26 PM »
Hi, as long as the backlash is taken out it's good,"@ MichaelKellough", we used it to replace a broken carcass back, it also works for panel doors.cheers guy It's a copy scanner.
« Last Edit: May 04, 2021, 01:51 PM by guybo »

Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: New OF-1010 REBQ
« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2021, 07:40 PM »
I’ve never seen the value in a rig like that, or in the tiny bit shown that is likely to burn the wood at the point. I suspect this is a carry over from six decades ago when it was expensive to put a ball bearing on every router bit.
IMO it does not truly replace a bearing bit. It will never be as stiff.

But it is way more generic, allowing to use reference surface something far from the bit. One of those "I will avoid using it when possible but still want to have it around" accessories.
I don't have the Festool version, but I do use one exactly like that with Bosch Colt routers.
There are advantages to the ability to off-set the cutter from the bearing or use it flush.
I use one with a down-spiral bit when trimming metal laminate. The down cut is best with this super thin metal because it cuts rather than tearing at it, like a straight bit does. This raises a burr.
Yes, I am fully aware that you can buy one with an integrated bearing. There are two problems with those. First, they are simply too long. They are just not intended for this, so the cut length is not only a waste, but in some routers you are at the extent of the adjustment.
Second, and most important, the downward cut is pushing all of the glue and chips right into the bearing itself. This does two things. It causes clumps on the bearing, affecting the cut. It also has a tendency to make the bearing stiff, then they dig/score against the reference surface.
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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: New OF-1010 REBQ
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2021, 09:00 PM »
@guybo and @Crazyraceguy   those are both really good applications, thanks for posting them!