Author Topic: Where has the original Sys cart gone? (Read 4110 times)

Lime green · « **on:** March 12, 2022, 01:55 PM »

I've been looking around online and noticed the original sys cart is suddenly nowhere to be found other than Ebay but the sellers don't ship to the U.S.

Anybody know where I can get thus cart or have it shipped internationally?

SRSemenza · « **Reply #1 on:** March 12, 2022, 02:44 PM »

There have been several versions do you happen to have a product number?

Seth

Lime green · « **Reply #2 on:** March 12, 2022, 03:05 PM »

I can't find the part number but it's essentially the same as the Makita macpac. I do see Amazon DE does ship the MacPac cart, I haven't figured out shipping cost yet but honestly would prefer a tanos white or anthracite or even Hikoki green. I just can't stand that teal color.

Cheese · « **Reply #3 on:** March 12, 2022, 03:16 PM »

If you’re talking about the one prior to the latest version, that’s a 495020. I needed the previous version as it’s almost 2” narrower than the current version. I searched all over and found probably the last 2 in the US at a store in Alaska.

Lime green · « **Reply #4 on:** March 12, 2022, 03:19 PM »

Yes that one. Dam! What the
heck? Where did they all go?

SRSemenza · « **Reply #5 on:** March 12, 2022, 03:25 PM »

Quote from: Lime green on March 12, 2022, 03:05 PM

I can't find the part number but it's essentially the same as the Makita macpac. I do see Amazon DE does ship the MacPac cart, I haven't figured out shipping cost yet but honestly would prefer a tanos white or anthracite or even Hikoki green. I just can't stand that teal color.

Does it have the slide latches --- one on each end? Or does it have four stretchy rubber connectors? "Original" can be dependent on knowing all the versions that were made.

Seth

SRSemenza · « **Reply #6 on:** March 12, 2022, 03:26 PM »

Quote from: Lime green on March 12, 2022, 03:19 PM

Yes that one. Dam! What the
heck? Where did they all go?

Discontinued and people bought the remaining supply over the last year or so.

Seth

Cheese · « **Reply #7 on:** March 12, 2022, 04:03 PM »

Quote from: Lime green on March 12, 2022, 03:19 PM

Yes that one. Dam! What the
heck? Where did they all go?

And just to add to what Seth mentioned, some places discounted them. The two I purchased in Alaska were discounted $30 each but the $75 shipping charge quickly took care of that bonus round.

Coen · « **Reply #8 on:** March 12, 2022, 11:23 PM »

The Makita one is with the two sliders.

Well, they replaced a product with an updated version which for 99% of users is inferior, so of course the previous version is gonna sell out quickly. I bought the last one from the local Toolstation. If I need another cart I'll get the Makita one as I don want the space waster that is the current Festool version.

kdzito · « **Reply #9 on:** March 13, 2022, 09:15 PM »

I’m curious about the differences between the two. What makes the previous version more useful? Thanks in advance.

ewils91 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 13, 2022, 09:35 PM »

I've posted here a couple of times WTB, hoping that someone had some they had replaced with the newer versions. No luck, I thought it was just me that wanted the original ones with the stretchy things Seth.

squall_line · « **Reply #11 on:** March 13, 2022, 10:50 PM »

I have a couple with the stretchy things, a couple with the slidey-things, and a couple of Sys³ versions with the latch (y thing?).

The stretchy thing models have the smallest overall footprint. They also have smaller casters than the slidey version and the latchy version.

The latchy version is ever-so-slightly narrower in overall width compared to the slidey version, but deeper front-to-back. At a glance, they look larger in both dimensions, but the specs and my tape both say different.

I think I have a stack of tires on one of my stretchy models. I got it used, but it's still quite a bit more expensive than a wooden trolley cart from Harbor Freight.

All of the Festool models roll much smoother and nicer than the HF or Menards models, though.

Coen · « **Reply #12 on:** March 14, 2022, 04:40 AM »

Quote from: ewils91 on March 13, 2022, 09:35 PM

I've posted here a couple of times WTB, hoping that someone had some they had replaced with the newer versions. No luck, I thought it was just me that wanted the original ones with the stretchy things Seth.

Well, if you make me an offer I can get the latchy version for, you can get my two stretchy ones. Spare rubbers from 10 years ago included.

Coen · « **Reply #13 on:** March 14, 2022, 04:44 AM »

Quote from: kdzito on March 13, 2022, 09:15 PM

I’m curious about the differences between the two. What makes the previous version more useful? Thanks in advance.

Size. The new version wastes more of if. But it does fit L and XL sized Systainers. But as of now, I don't own any of those.

So I have three: two original ones with the stretchy rubbers, one 2nd gen with the side latches. That one is way easier to attach Systainers to. The stretchy things are kinda permanently attached to a certain Systainer.

kdzito · « **Reply #14 on:** March 15, 2022, 07:55 PM »

Quote from: Coen on March 14, 2022, 04:44 AM

Quote from: kdzito on March 13, 2022, 09:15 PM
I’m curious about the differences between the two. What makes the previous version more useful? Thanks in advance.

Size. The new version wastes more of if. But it does fit L and XL sized Systainers. But as of now, I don't own any of those.

So I have three: two original ones with the stretchy rubbers, one 2nd gen with the side latches. That one is way easier to attach Systainers to. The stretchy things are kinda permanently attached to a certain Systainer.

thanks. I do have one of each generation and haven’t looked at them closely. I do know where I can buy a 2nd generation. I might have to buy it.

Lime green · « **Reply #15 on:** March 15, 2022, 09:43 PM »

Quote from: kdzito on March 15, 2022, 07:55 PM

Quote from: Coen on March 14, 2022, 04:44 AM
Quote from: kdzito on March 13, 2022, 09:15 PM
I’m curious about the differences between the two. What makes the previous version more useful? Thanks in advance.

Size. The new version wastes more of if. But it does fit L and XL sized Systainers. But as of now, I don't own any of those.

So I have three: two original ones with the stretchy rubbers, one 2nd gen with the side latches. That one is way easier to attach Systainers to. The stretchy things are kinda permanently attached to a certain Systainer.
thanks. I do have one of each generation and haven’t looked at them closely. I do know where I can buy a 2nd generation. I might have to buy it.

The other problem is the newer version only fits the T-Loc and Sys 3 but not the classic Systainer correct? Or am I wrong about that?

squall_line · « **Reply #16 on:** March 15, 2022, 10:55 PM »

Quote from: Lime green on March 15, 2022, 09:43 PM

Quote from: kdzito on March 15, 2022, 07:55 PM
Quote from: Coen on March 14, 2022, 04:44 AM
Quote from: kdzito on March 13, 2022, 09:15 PM
I’m curious about the differences between the two. What makes the previous version more useful? Thanks in advance.

Size. The new version wastes more of if. But it does fit L and XL sized Systainers. But as of now, I don't own any of those.

So I have three: two original ones with the stretchy rubbers, one 2nd gen with the side latches. That one is way easier to attach Systainers to. The stretchy things are kinda permanently attached to a certain Systainer.
thanks. I do have one of each generation and haven’t looked at them closely. I do know where I can buy a 2nd generation. I might have to buy it.

The other problem is the newer version only fits the T-Loc and Sys 3 but not the classic Systainer correct? Or am I wrong about that?

You are mostly correct about that. By that I mean that the newest generation can fit a classic systainer, but it can't latch it in; it just kinda sits there not too secure. I thought about mentioning that after the most recent post, but got distracted by a squirrel. Each generation has its pluses and minuses, for sure.

mino · « **Reply #17 on:** March 16, 2022, 07:51 AM »

The "2nd gen" cart is still available in Europe in the TANOS version.

But yeah, seems stock is running out slowly. Have to get one more before they are off completely.

https://www.sys-classic.de/systainer-T-LOC-2-Generation/Transport-utensils:::3_8.html

Coen · « **Reply #18 on:** March 16, 2022, 11:30 AM »

Quote from: mino on March 16, 2022, 07:51 AM

The "2nd gen" cart is still available in Europe in the TANOS version.

But yeah, seems stock is running out slowly. Have to get one more before they are off completely.

https://www.sys-classic.de/systainer-T-LOC-2-Generation/Transport-utensils:::3_8.html

Seeing the newest version doesn't attach to the classic sys nor Makita's version of that... I think it will stick around. At least in Makita color. On Amazon.nl it is/was the #1 in rollers .

Packard · « **Reply #19 on:** March 16, 2022, 01:09 PM »

I googled to see what the old style Sys-cart was and could not find it. But the Sys-roll looks good to me. It works as a cart and a handtruck

squall_line · « **Reply #20 on:** March 16, 2022, 01:16 PM »

I love my SYS-Rolls as well, but they're a different use case; two large fixed wheels vs 4 swivel casters.

They're also twice the price.

Here's the original "stretchy" Sys-cart. Technically an "RB-SYS":

ghhsolutions · « **Reply #21 on:** July 12, 2022, 03:39 PM »

Ordered January 27th, finally arrived today!