[...] CMT makes them for the Euro market. We will check and see if they'll send us some.

Ahaa. That would be CMT article number 03.51.0048A or EAN 8019296017533
And CMT 03.51.0059A or EAN 8019296017540 for the 12mm version, also per 20.

They are only €7 for 20 here. I never even knew of their existence. But then again, the router bit Systainer is doing just fine. As long as you rotate the bit before pulling it out.

Long live this thread. Don't think I've posted this one.

I was tired of always having to search all over the place for the right bit and didn't want something fixed to a wall. So I made 3 systainers for my router bits. Just a few bits of ply shaped so that they would fit, a few strips of plastic for easy affixing labels, and a number of plastic bushings in different sizes CMT make for their router bit organizer (https://www.cmtorangetools.com/eu-en/systems-and-accessories/organizer). Those bushings fit perfectly in holes made with a 22 mm Forstner drill bit. I am quite happy with this solution. It is uncluttered, flexible, and easily accessible. Maybe not the most efficient with space, but I purposely made the gaps between the bits a bit larger so that I can grab a bit without cutting my fingers.

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I like this too.
I've been pondering something like this for a while. I have most of my 1/2 stuff in 2 Harbor Freight cases with a foam bit organizer in one of them (other has a bunch of rectangular open top "boxes") because it's easy to see what is what.
I can't do that with my 1/4 bits because way more are dimensional and I can't necessarily tell what is what with a quick look so my Makita router case is literally overflowing with little cases/bags.
I wanted a way to label each bit in the case.

I was thinking about the Festool "kit" but it's way too short (I can't believe they don't offer a larger one). I did order a Powermatic foam systainer insert for router bits so we'll see how that fits when I get it.
I found a medium sized systainer on clearance for $22! Currently debating whether to store my Milwaukee routers in it or use it for the router bits. I'll have to test fit when I get the foam in.

I'm also having a little trouble justifying the regular cost of the systainers (I know.....), but I have a bunch of the original Dewalt Tough Boxes that are larger and sturdier than the systainers that I paid a lot less for that I can't help comparing them to...

I've also got a bunch of the Woodpeckers square inserts (they come with the bits they sell; nice touch), was trying to think of a way to make them work with the foam. Or maybe an insert in the foam.

I have the original Festool router bit Systainer with the foam inserts and after some time the bits are very difficult to remove because the foam grabs them so tightly.

Another good reason to not get the Festool one.

That looks sexy! Very soothing to my ocd. 

The actual size of holes drilled with a drill press depend on how much total runout there is.
If it matters, it’s better to reposition the bit in the chuck a few times to find the minimum.

Also matters how you tighten the drill chuck. Best to gradually tighten with all 3 holes vs just tightening one.

My $22 ($36 shipped) systainer.


All my 1/2" router bit junk.
In my Harbor Freight systainers. 



I can't even fit these in either of the cases.
That giant one is a (relatively) cheap Chinese one. Worked fantastic flattening white oak.

Quote from: Coen on August 18, 2023, 02:34 PM

Nice use of Midi Systainer.

Makes me think of my Bosch GSA 1300 PCE... 48 cm long. Came in a stupid case that fits near-zero blades  . Would fit in a Midi / ³ L

I'd prefer a case that would fit the saw with a short blade, but that M does alright for now. The Systainer and some of those blades came from the FOG classifieds, so thanks FOG!

You have Midi Sytainer, not a Sys³ M. The older Midi is almost same width as current Sys³ L

I got my Sys-Aid kit from Systainer.store set up. I 3D printed these red bins for it, and some are in odd sizes that Bott doesn't make, so the contents fit exactly.

That is excellent. I hope you never need to use it. 

Here is my version of the battery systainer. Fits more and it’s a size smaller compared to Festool’s


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Looks like the foam on both sides holds it securely …..I like it !

I set up my Domino and tenons in some new Systainer 3s, and out of their old and creaky original Systainers. The organizer Systainer will also be nice since I can grab a bin instead of grabbing a handful of loose tenons when working. This is another instance where custom sized 3d printed bins are very nice, I can almost evenly divide the organizer into six by using odd sized bins.

Very nice!

Do you know that the newer Assortments come with bins you can take out?
Like this;


The same with Sys^3, but then with more foam inside..

That would be nicer; I have the bags tucked into the original assortment box so I can either grab a handful or just pull the bag out. Not having the bag would be nice. May have to do like Jack and print up some bins for the original

I also keep mine in bags in the systainer and I put desiccant bags in ones that have been opened.

I downloaded a newer Sys3 template from Shaper Hub.

Some time ago I asked elsewhere on the forum if anyone had already gone through the trouble of making inner-footprint drawings for the new sys3’s, and *poof*, there they are.

Unfortunately they’re missing measurements, so if you could give some basic sizes (i.e. the total width in between the parallel sides), then I could trace these drawings and deduct the other sizes.

Quote from: jacklewis on September 10, 2023, 01:15 PM

I set up my Domino and tenons in some new Systainer 3s, and out of their old and creaky original Systainers. The organizer Systainer will also be nice since I can grab a bin instead of grabbing a handful of loose tenons when working. This is another instance where custom sized 3d printed bins are very nice, I can almost evenly divide the organizer into six by using odd sized bins.

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Do you know that the newer Assorments come with bins you can take out?

Yes, although I'm already stocked up pretty well on Dominos, if I could just get that as an empty systainer I would have thought about it. But buying an empty organizer for $65 USD and then printing my own inserts is a lot cheaper.

I'm keeping the old classic systainer for bulk storage, and then refilling the organizer when needed.

Quote from: Coen on September 28, 2023, 01:27 PM

Quote from: jacklewis on September 10, 2023, 01:15 PM

I set up my Domino and tenons in some new Systainer 3s, and out of their old and creaky original Systainers. The organizer Systainer will also be nice since I can grab a bin instead of grabbing a handful of loose tenons when working. This is another instance where custom sized 3d printed bins are very nice, I can almost evenly divide the organizer into six by using odd sized bins.

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Do you know that the newer Assorments come with bins you can take out?

Yes, although I'm already stocked up pretty well on Dominos, if I could just get that as an empty systainer I would have thought about it. But buying an empty organizer for $65 USD and then printing my own inserts is a lot cheaper.

I'm keeping the old classic systainer for bulk storage, and then refilling the organizer when needed.

You can get that Domino Systainer empty, at least last time I checked (in Europe). But full with dominos and set of cutters is a nice set discount.