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Offline woodbutcherbower

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Re: If you were starting fresh - what would you buy?
« Reply #30 on: February 11, 2022, 02:45 PM »
I’ll just leave these here …
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Offline FestitaMakool

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Re: If you were starting fresh - what would you buy?
« Reply #31 on: February 11, 2022, 03:30 PM »
.. Very nice WBB ..
Clean big lettering, different colour SYS’s and extremely tidy.

A good example of why the Systainers do well at these tasks.
T-Lock in particular, whether being SYS3 or older, opens with one hand motion.
Funny enough, having had many other boxes before (and still) they are almost with no exception any kind of double clasp. The one hand operation is just.. just  [big grin]
“The Stig” Yes, it is true, at least some part of it..
“If you have an old Land Rover and a fit wife, you’re most likely always busy”

Offline woodbutcherbower

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Re: If you were starting fresh - what would you buy?
« Reply #32 on: February 11, 2022, 04:22 PM »
Thanks for your kind words. The pics were taken a few years ago - there’s even more stuff in there now.  [smile] The great beauty of Systainers is the identical footprint which makes racking-out a joy. Anyone who’s interested - I’ll happily upload pics of the build, including routing the lock-in shelves for the boxes.

Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: If you were starting fresh - what would you buy?
« Reply #33 on: February 11, 2022, 06:03 PM »

That said, I'm less of a fan for them in a shop. Most of my Systainers are on sliding shelves that I've built with 14" full extension drawer slides. I can pull the Systainer out, fully open the lid and remove the tool without removing the Systainer. That's not possible with the built in runner system. You have to remove the Systainer completely before you can open it.

The built-in runner system is not intended for you to "work out of" the Systainer. It is strictly for secure storage in a van/truck/trailer, where you would be pulling out the entire Systainer to take it with you on a jobsite.

This is part of the objection that many of us have with this "upgrade".
CSX
DF500 + assortment set
PS420 + Base kit
OF1010
OF1010F
OF1400
MFK700 (2)
TS55, FS1080, FS1400 holey, FS1900, FS3000
CT26E + Workshop cleaning set
RO90
RO125
ETS EC 125
RAS115
ETS 125 (2)
TS75
Shaper Origin/Workstation
MFT clamps set
Installers set
Centrotech organizer set

Offline jeffinsgf

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Re: If you were starting fresh - what would you buy?
« Reply #34 on: February 12, 2022, 08:33 AM »

The built-in runner system is not intended for you to "work out of" the Systainer. It is strictly for secure storage in a van/truck/trailer, where you would be pulling out the entire Systainer to take it with you on a jobsite.

This is part of the objection that many of us have with this "upgrade".

Isn't that pretty much exactly what I said?

Offline Coen

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Re: If you were starting fresh - what would you buy?
« Reply #35 on: February 12, 2022, 03:55 PM »
I’ll just leave these here …

Very nice!

Are those drawers, or shelves?

Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: If you were starting fresh - what would you buy?
« Reply #36 on: February 12, 2022, 04:12 PM »

The built-in runner system is not intended for you to "work out of" the Systainer. It is strictly for secure storage in a van/truck/trailer, where you would be pulling out the entire Systainer to take it with you on a jobsite.

This is part of the objection that many of us have with this "upgrade".

Isn't that pretty much exactly what I said?

Yes, I guess that at the time I read that, it seemed like a "bug" rather than a "feature"?
The rails "seem" to be a mobile version of a Sysport, but they definitely are not.
CSX
DF500 + assortment set
PS420 + Base kit
OF1010
OF1010F
OF1400
MFK700 (2)
TS55, FS1080, FS1400 holey, FS1900, FS3000
CT26E + Workshop cleaning set
RO90
RO125
ETS EC 125
RAS115
ETS 125 (2)
TS75
Shaper Origin/Workstation
MFT clamps set
Installers set
Centrotech organizer set

Offline Dane

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Re: If you were starting fresh - what would you buy?
« Reply #37 on: February 12, 2022, 05:50 PM »
I’d do yourself a favor and buy at least one of the Packout drawer units to see if you like them.  I recently a changed everything over the packout drawers because they are so nice to work out of.  That said, they are heavy  and do need wheels to be very practical to move around.  I use a little folding hand truck.  And they aren’t quite big enough for saws and huge routers.  Systainers are good for stacking up and hauling around one handed or keeping in the shop. But if you’re going to use systainers, you are going to inevitably have to build some sort of racking/drawer system for them. I’m which case adding a slot for a few packout drawers won’t be that big of a deal.

Offline Vondawg

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Re: If you were starting fresh - what would you buy?
« Reply #38 on: February 12, 2022, 06:55 PM »
I was going say something simular but because the OP was not here in the US I felt the systainers probably were the direction he’d be going
There are no mistakes....just new designs.

Offline Coen

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Re: If you were starting fresh - what would you buy?
« Reply #39 on: February 13, 2022, 11:57 AM »
The Milwaukee website is junk. You can't even find the weight of these packout drawers.

It kinda looks heavy and oversized, more suited for US cars and homes.

Offline Paul_HKI

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Re: If you were starting fresh - what would you buy?
« Reply #40 on: February 13, 2022, 02:58 PM »
The Milwaukee website is junk. You can't even find the weight of these packout drawers.

It kinda looks heavy and oversized, more suited for US cars and homes.


The 3 drawer unit weights just over 10kgs.  2 drawer version is 9kgs. 


Specs:


https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Storage-Solutions/PACKOUT/PACKOUT-Tool-Boxes/48-22-8443


https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Storage-Solutions/PACKOUT/PACKOUT-Tool-Boxes/48-22-8442


Packout Dimensions Catalogue:


https://www.milwaukeetool.com/PDFViewer?file=https://www.milwaukeetool.com/-/media/PDFs/Sizing-Charts/PACKOUT-Dimension-Catalog.pdf

TKS 80 EBS-SET, KS 60 E-Set, TSC 55 REBI, TS 75, HKC 55,
DF 500 & DF 700, OF2020, OF1010 REBQ, OF1010 EBQ, OFK 500,
T18+3, C18, PDC 18/4, TID 18,
RO 150, RO 90, RAS 115, RTS 400, ETS 125, ETS 150/5,
EHL 65, HL 850 EB,
CTL 26 E, CTL MIDI I, CTL-SYS, CT-VA-20
VAC SYS w/ SE1 & SE2, MFT/3, SYS PowerHub, DUO SYSLITE, & KAL.

Offline Coen

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Re: If you were starting fresh - what would you buy?
« Reply #41 on: February 13, 2022, 06:55 PM »
The Milwaukee website is junk. You can't even find the weight of these packout drawers.

It kinda looks heavy and oversized, more suited for US cars and homes.


The 3 drawer unit weights just over 10kgs.  2 drawer version is 9kgs. 


Specs:


https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Storage-Solutions/PACKOUT/PACKOUT-Tool-Boxes/48-22-8443


https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Storage-Solutions/PACKOUT/PACKOUT-Tool-Boxes/48-22-8442


Packout Dimensions Catalogue:


https://www.milwaukeetool.com/PDFViewer?file=https://www.milwaukeetool.com/-/media/PDFs/Sizing-Charts/PACKOUT-Dimension-Catalog.pdf

Yeah well, local Milwaukee doesn't seem to care about specs. See;
https://nl.milwaukeetool.eu/nl-nl/packout-gereedschapskoffer-met-drie-lades/packout-3-drawer-tool-box/
Weight is missing.

DeWalt website is just as junk. Makita is a maze regarding DC. My brother bought something like the Renofix, but of Makita. Didn't fit the Festool hose. Seller didn't know, Makita didn't have a clue, I couldn't figure it out, so on my advise he send it back and bought the Festool Renofix. Problem solved.

Offline woodbutcherbower

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Re: If you were starting fresh - what would you buy?
« Reply #42 on: February 14, 2022, 04:01 AM »
I’ll just leave these here …

Very nice!

Are those drawers, or shelves?

They’re shelves, @Coen. I made an 18mm MDF template and routed a whole bunch of them in one go. Each one has 4 holes to grab the feet of the Systainer so they don’t slide out. The larger middle hole is there just to save a little weight. The shelves were then fixed into slots routed into the verticals, which were scribed to the constantly-changing side profile of the van. These pics are 4 years old - I added some more since then. It works really well.
« Last Edit: February 14, 2022, 04:11 AM by woodbutcherbower »

Offline bidn

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Re: If you were starting fresh - what would you buy?
« Reply #43 on: February 16, 2022, 07:09 AM »
I was going say something simular but because the OP was not here in the US I felt the systainers probably were the direction he’d be going

I am in Europe like the OP. The packout drawers are also available here (I bought them in two different countries as I am spread between two countries). The drawback in Europe is that the red colour is replaced by black, which takes out some of the lighting. I solve this by gluing white self-adhesive sheets (except of course on the top and bottom, which are used for connection and not visible).
« Last Edit: February 16, 2022, 07:14 AM by bidn »

Offline Peter_C

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Re: If you were starting fresh - what would you buy?
« Reply #44 on: February 17, 2022, 02:44 AM »
I am in Europe like the OP. The packout drawers are also available here (I bought them in two different countries as I am spread between two countries). The drawback in Europe is that the red colour is replaced by black, which takes out some of the lighting. I solve this by gluing white self-adhesive sheets (except of course on the top and bottom, which are used for connection and not visible).
Interesting, I have 14 of the black Ridgid tool boxes and never found the color to be an issue vs the red Packout's that I have. The red shows dirt and grime more than the black. Wish I could have gotten black Packout's in the USA.

Offline bidn

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Re: If you were starting fresh - what would you buy?
« Reply #45 on: February 17, 2022, 03:47 AM »
Interesting, I have 14 of the black Ridgid tool boxes and never found the color to be an issue vs the red Packout's that I have. The red shows dirt and grime more than the black. Wish I could have gotten black Packout's in the USA.

I think this is because their "black" packouts are not pure black but "anthracite".

Color preferences are quite personal. Personaly, I like to maximise passive lighting by having as much whitish surfaces as possible (in one country my workshop is a big garage = 0 windows; in the other country it is the lower storey of a barne = 2 tiny windows).

I would be much nicer if Milwaukee would offer some colour choice like Tanos does, for personal reasons, and also for "colour coding". I have a few systainers with alternative colours = quick way of coding and locating stuff. I also use even more the variously colored T-loc catches for "coding" categories of stuff, I bought some coloured catches; also when I get a systainer with a special colour, I swap its catch with one of the standard colours (Festool flashy green or Tanos dark blue), and put the special-colour catch on a another systainer, e.g. on one with the standard withish (very light grey) colour.

Offline Coen

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Re: If you were starting fresh - what would you buy?
« Reply #46 on: February 17, 2022, 01:20 PM »
I have color coding too. The longer I own the tool, or where it was stored... the more yellow the Systainer, hehe.  [tongue]

Also have some grey Panasonic-labeled Systainers, a Green/Red Metabo one, a gray Protool one, some Orange Fein ones, etc.