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Offline six-point socket II

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WAGO Electrical connectors
« on: February 02, 2019, 07:25 AM »
Hi!

Mini-L-Boxx from/by Wago.

Series 221 (100x 221-412), (110x 221-413) and (25x 221-415) + 4 adaptor plates/mounting plates/carriers to use the series 221splicing connectors inside distribution panels













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« Last Edit: February 02, 2019, 07:45 AM by six-point socket II »
Kind regards,
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Offline Bob D.

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Re: WAGO Two
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2019, 07:24 AM »
Thanks for posting Oliver. I wasn't aware Wago made DIN rail holders for the connectors.
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Offline Cheese

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WAGO Electrical connectors
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2022, 01:17 PM »
I found out these were just released in January. Wago 221 Series splice connectors for electrical wiring. The 221-2411 is for 18-14 ga wires while the 221-2401 is for 18-12 ga wires. Unfortunately they are not yet available in the US. A box of 60 can be purchased in Germany for $28 but the freight is an additional $130.  [eek]






In-line splicing of multiple lines.




Also, ran across the Wago Gel Box for potting electrical connections in damp/wet areas. These can actually be used submerged in liquid. They are a one-use item and if opened up a new Gel box needs to be installed. The gel is non-silicone based and the item can be used immediately without waiting for the potting material to harden or cure.






« Last Edit: March 11, 2022, 01:47 PM by Cheese »

Offline rvieceli

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Re: WAGO Electrical connectors
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2022, 01:44 PM »
@Cheese don't know if you have seen these but they work great for splicing bigger gauge wires. Available for several wire sizes and configurations. I used some when I added a receptacle to my rotary phase converter to splice some #6 and #8 wire.

Come already insulated and connections filled with anti-oxidizing gel, wires held by set screws.



Morris Products

Clear

https://www.morrisproducts.com/pc_combined_results.asp?search_cat=searchexact~pcpcm.parent_pc_id~2786438C78864D74B75B75BD0D2C7CB5&pc_id=2786438C78864D74B75B75BD0D2C7CB5

Black

https://www.morrisproducts.com/pc_combined_results.asp?search_cat=searchexact~pcpcm.parent_pc_id~04581668916D40B2A3F849BF22B53748&pc_id=04581668916D40B2A3F849BF22B53748

Zoro carries a good selection.

https://www.zoro.com/search?fqv%3Abrand=MORRIS%20PRODUCTS&q=morris%20connector

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Re: WAGO Electrical connectors
« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2022, 04:07 PM »
Cheese, revrobotics.com offers WAGO 221-2401 Inline Splicing Connector - 12 AWG - 50 Pack for $35.00.

Offline Cheese

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Re: WAGO Electrical connectors
« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2022, 04:08 PM »
@Cheese don't know if you have seen these but they work great for splicing bigger gauge wires. Available for several wire sizes and configurations. I used some when I added a receptacle to my rotary phase converter to splice some #6 and #8 wire.

Come already insulated and connections filled with anti-oxidizing gel, wires held by set screws.


Thanks for that Ron...those are new to me. I saved a couple of photos of those for future reference.  [smile]

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Re: WAGO Electrical connectors
« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2022, 04:16 PM »
Cheese, revrobotics.com offers WAGO 221-2401 Inline Splicing Connector - 12 AWG - 50 Pack for $35.00.

Thanks a ton for that link rst... [smile]...I'll order some today.

https://www.revrobotics.com/rev-15-2491/

Offline DynaGlide

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Re: WAGO Electrical connectors
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2022, 08:12 AM »
Cheese, revrobotics.com offers WAGO 221-2401 Inline Splicing Connector - 12 AWG - 50 Pack for $35.00.

Thanks a ton for that link rst... [smile]...I'll order some today.

https://www.revrobotics.com/rev-15-2491/

@Cheese

I've avoided using the WAGO's until now, probably due to my lack of research. What are the most common models to stock for typical house wiring jobs? 12-14AWG for outlet installs, lighting, areas you'd typically deal with joining the wires with nuts and shoving into the junction box. Always my least favorite thing to do and open to seeing what's available.

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Offline Cheese

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Re: WAGO Electrical connectors
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2022, 10:25 AM »
What are the most common models to stock for typical house wiring jobs? 12-14AWG for outlet installs, lighting, areas you'd typically deal with joining the wires with nuts and shoving into the junction box.

Matt, by far the most used are the 3 wire, then 2 wire & finally 5 wire. I purchase the 2&3 wire in 30 each boxes while the 5 wire I purchase in a plastic carded package of 10 each.

These 221 series connectors will work with 24-12 AWG wires either stranded or solid. They're really pleasant to use when you need to switch out an outlet or switch. Any time I have to go in and do something in an electrical box, I remove the original wire nuts and use these Wago 221 connectors instead.

They also provide a more positive contact when bundling 4 or more wires. When using wire nuts, sometimes one of the wires in the bundle doesn't get tightened enough and you'll get intermittent contact which can be tough to track down.

Here's a flyer you can read and download if you desire.
https://www.wago.com/us/d/Info_60368102

Here's a photo from L to R... 2 wire, 3 wire & 5 wire. I expect that eventually those 6 wire nut containers will be replaced with a single container.  [smile]

« Last Edit: March 12, 2022, 10:27 AM by Cheese »

Offline Cheese

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Re: WAGO Electrical connectors
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2022, 10:41 AM »
This is a big thanks 🙏 to @rst for his information on Rev Robotics. I placed an order for Wago 221 splice connectors late Thursday afternoon, 20 minutes later I received a notice that the connectors had already shipped and on Monday they arrived via standard USPS.
My recent experiences with other vendors is that it takes 2-3 days just for them to pull the inventory, and then the product languishes in shipping for another couple of days. These folks are great and their shipping prices are reasonable.

https://www.revrobotics.com

These splice connectors are rated for 18-12 ga wire but I tried them on some 22 awg stranded wire and they also worked well. I'd guess they'd probably work on 24 awg also because they really clamp down on the wires. Good for both large & small wiring projects.




Offline Coen

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Re: WAGO Electrical connectors
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2022, 11:37 AM »
The Wago 221-2411 works on smaller wires  [wink]
But with 110V... you get 6mm² wire for things we solve with 3-fase and 2.5mm²  [tongue]

Offline Richard/RMW

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Re: WAGO Electrical connectors
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2022, 05:34 PM »
Holy petunias, I spent most of today wishing I had these connectors handy. ~11-ish years after building the house and it seems we've reached the bosses tipping point to start updating everything. 3 ceiling fans replaced and more to follow, it would have been so much simpler mating up solid 12 and stranded 20 with these.

My own fault, as Jersey oddly allows you to GC your own home construction, right down to the electrical. Everything is inspected of course but amateurs do goofy stuff. Following grandpa's rule (if one nail is good, 3 must be better) I figured 12 gauge must be better than 14, no lights dimming when the refer started up. And switch legs to every bank of 4-6 can lights, with our bedroom having 4 switches in one box. Had to untangle 5 12ga conductors wire nutted together to rearrange some switches. My hands ache.

Anyway, I'm ordering an assortment before inspiration strikes the boss again.

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Offline Bob D.

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Re: WAGO Electrical connectors
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2022, 07:10 PM »
You won't be sorry Richard, they work very well.
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Offline Richard/RMW

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Re: WAGO Electrical connectors
« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2022, 07:39 PM »
You won't be sorry Richard, they work very well.

No doubt. $80 got me 25 each of the 2/3/5 and 60 singles. Hopefully enough to last me to the retirement home.

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Offline demographic

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Re: WAGO Electrical connectors
« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2022, 02:48 AM »
This thread came at the right time, I've spotted a few of these connectors on the floor at work and was wondering what the score is with them.
I had a look at one the other day and it seems to be a quick and easy connector to use.

It had two connectors with spung levers pointing out the same direction and another hole at the other end just maybe big enough to fit a test probe into.

Offline Coen

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Re: WAGO Electrical connectors
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2022, 08:37 AM »
@richard/BMW Singles??

Offline Cheese

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Re: WAGO Electrical connectors
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2022, 09:43 AM »
It had two connectors with spung levers pointing out the same direction and another hole at the other end just maybe big enough to fit a test probe into.

That's another nice feature on the new 221 style Wago connectors, they all have an entrance for a test probe.

And here's a thread about earlier style Wago connectors. They also incorporated probe openings.

https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/home-improvement-other-projects/wago-wire-connector-nuts-63686/30/

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Re: WAGO Electrical connectors
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2022, 10:47 AM »
@richard/BMW Singles??

The inline splice Matt mentioned in the other thread.

https://www.revrobotics.com/rev-15-2491/

RMW
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Offline Cheese

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Re: WAGO Electrical connectors
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2022, 11:52 AM »

The I line splice Matt mentioned in the other thread.

https://www.revrobotics.com/rev-15-2491/

RMW

This has been an interesting storyline as I started to chase down the availability of the 221-2401 in-line splice connector when it was first released in November/December. At that point the in-line connector was rated for use with both stranded & solid wire from 18-12 gauge. I now see it's been re-rated for 20-12 gauge.

However, the 221-412/413/415 connectors (2 wire, 3 wire, 5 wire) are all rated for 24-12 gauge wire. So, maybe the in-line splice connector will follow that example after some further testing.

A simple work-around if you need to use the in-line splice connector with 24 gauge stranded wire is to simply tin the wire ends.

Here are the probe points for the in-line connector and the other 2/3/5 wire connectors.






Offline Coen

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Re: WAGO Electrical connectors
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2022, 02:11 PM »
Everything becomes easier if you use metric. A bigger cross section... a bigger number, as nature intended  [tongue]

These Wago's 221 come in a 4mm² and a 6mm² version. I stock the whole series in 4mm², also the 2273 series, those are even way more compact but only up to 2.5mm² and only solid. Also no handles. But they do come in 8-way version.

@richard/BMW Singles??

The I line splice Matt mentioned in the other thread.

https://www.revrobotics.com/rev-15-2491/

RMW

Ah yes. I thought I was missing out on real singles... like to cap wires when painting etc.

Offline dwillis

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Re: WAGO Electrical connectors
« Reply #20 on: June 04, 2022, 07:02 PM »
FWIW I recently built my house in SW Washington and exclusively used WAGO connectors instead of wire nuts or the newer push-type connectors. I wasn't aware of the inline WAGO connectors described in this thread, but I'm going to order some to have them on hand. As you may have guessed, I'm a big fan of WAGO and it made my wiring job easier and neater, plus revisions were quick.

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Re: WAGO Electrical connectors
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2022, 07:59 PM »
@Cheese - First, thank you and the others here who introduced me to these connectors. I am re-wiring my fluorescent light fixtures in my shop to accommodate LED bypass bulbs. In doing so I ordered an assortment of the Wago connectors but it took a few days longer to get them and I needed to do one (first of six) fixture. While at Home Depot a few days ago I bought a small supply of the Ideal connectors that they carry. Now that I have received the Wagos I think that the difference is clear but I wanted to check. The Wago appears to be a bit better built but the main difference appears to be that the Wago has the little levers that allow you to release the wire once engaged thus making them reusable and very easy to correct mistakes. Am I missing anything?

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Re: WAGO Electrical connectors
« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2022, 08:56 PM »
"Am I missing anything?"

One big advantage I appreciate is they make it easier to join stranded to
solid wire, especially the smaller gauge stranded wire on new light fixtures.
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Re: WAGO Electrical connectors
« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2022, 09:36 PM »
@Cheese - First, thank you and the others here who introduced me to these connectors. I am re-wiring my fluorescent light fixtures in my shop to accommodate LED bypass bulbs. In doing so I ordered an assortment of the Wago connectors but it took a few days longer to get them and I needed to do one (first of six) fixture. While at Home Depot a few days ago I bought a small supply of the Ideal connectors that they carry. Now that I have received the Wagos I think that the difference is clear but I wanted to check. The Wago appears to be a bit better built but the main difference appears to be that the Wago has the little levers that allow you to release the wire once engaged thus making them reusable and very easy to correct mistakes. Am I missing anything?

No Alan you got it right  [big grin]...a brief history, Wago released their original "Push Wire" connector first but it was limited to 18-12 gauge wire, Ideal then followed up with their version which would accept 24 gauge wire, consequently for my needs, I had to purchase both. Both were "stab-in" designs but removing wires from both of the connectors was a real PITA.
Photos of original Wago first then the Ideal.





Wago then released about 5 years ago their 222-413 Lever Nut design which was a significant improvement because of the simple re-use/reconfiguration issue...it however was girth wise, an over achiever.



About 2 years ago Wago redesigned the 222-413 Lever Nut into a much smaller package and renamed it the 221-413. It's very nice, definitely my go-to connector.


Offline Alanbach

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Re: WAGO Electrical connectors
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2022, 10:50 PM »
@Cheese - Thank you, as always, for that great explanation. I also ordered the Wago splices from REV Robotics so thanks to you and @rst !

BTW, if any of you have fluorescent tubes in your shop that are getting older consider LED bypass bulbs as an upgrade. I might have to wear my shades in the shop until I get used to this!

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Re: WAGO Electrical connectors
« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2022, 10:58 PM »
@Cheese - Thank you, as always, for that great explanation. I also ordered the Wago splices from REV Robotics so thanks to you and @rst !

BTW, if any of you have fluorescent tubes in your shop that are getting older consider LED bypass bulbs as an upgrade. I might have to wear my shades in the shop until I get used to this!

Alan, I agree, I've replaced all of the fluorescent tubes in the shop with Barrina LED's ...simply incredible.

Offline Alanbach

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Re: WAGO Electrical connectors
« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2022, 11:14 PM »
@Cheese - I put in the original 8’ fixtures in 2008 when we bought this house. The first bulb just went out so here we are. These are pretty much the last of my LED conversions in this house. Now I’m just waiting for the last few bulbs / ballasts to die. When you did yours did you do bypass or ballast compatible. I’m pretty sure I already know the answer.

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Re: WAGO Electrical connectors
« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2022, 11:37 PM »
@Cheese - I put in the original 8’ fixtures in 2008 when we bought this house. The first bulb just went out so here we are. These are pretty much the last of my LED conversions in this house. Now I’m just waiting for the last few bulbs / ballasts to die. When you did yours did you do bypass or ballast compatible. I’m pretty sure I already know the answer.

Alan, I originally installed 8 foot fluorescent lighting throughout the entire shop and obviously I had a kin-man-ship to this method of illumination, however, once I read the information on Barrina LED's I decided that maybe that LED was a change for the good.

I tried ballast replacements and 15 other goofy solutions. Unfortunately some worked while others did not, ultimately I pulled all of the fluorescents from the shop and gifted them to a neighbor for his garage.

I've found the Barrina LED's are sensitive to voltage spikes and that can become an annoyance. They do not like auto-on/auto-off switching.

Offline Coen

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Re: WAGO Electrical connectors
« Reply #28 on: June 25, 2022, 01:37 AM »
The push in type isn't compatible with stranded wire. The lever type is.
I rarely use the 221 unless stranded wire is involved. I like the size of the 2273 a lot better plus it comes in an 8-way version.

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Re: WAGO Electrical connectors
« Reply #29 on: June 25, 2022, 07:32 AM »

I've found the Barrina LED's are sensitive to voltage spikes and that can become an annoyance. They do not like auto-on/auto-off switching.

@Cheese i haven’t noticed that with my Barrinas. What do they do?

My Flex vac however is very sensitive and will occasionally start up and run for a couple of seconds then shut off when something is turned on or off.

Ron