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Offline Roger Savatteri

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TimberSIL Wood Products - Anybody here actually used them??

I am about to re-roof a house we own and I would like to take the opportunity to replace the facia and the under eave before that is done. The house (cabin) borders a state park and is in a high fire zone as well as being nestled in a grove of oak trees. so when it rains - there's a constant "after-rain" due to the branches shaking out the stored water, so moisture is always an issue.

I've done some research on TimberSIL and from all accounts it seems to be the ticket. It's rot proof, bug proof and barely burns. [eek]
It does cost more than other options, but at the same time it is essentially maintenance free, especially if one doesn't paint it. (which is my plan)

So for those of you that have not dealt with it I've left several links below.

So, again has anybody actually had any experience with this stuff?

P.S. I plan on documenting this whole process (and the next remodeling stages) ........so this may be a long thread in time.


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« Last Edit: April 26, 2010, 12:49 PM by Roger Savatteri »
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Offline Roger Savatteri

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Re: TimberSIL Wood Products - Anybody here actually used them??
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2010, 12:50 PM »
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Update,

I just had a little chat with the distributer of TimberSIL in my area......

The wood used is yellow-pine which through the glass impregnation process essentially turns it into a hardwood as far as strength is concerned as well as working with it.

It still acts like a yellow pine that has been kiln dried,
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When you bring it to the site you need to store it inside and strap it until you use it.

The best sealers or paints to use on it is "Silkens"
(which I've used in the past and is a great product)

I was told that sanding it with 60-80  grit before application is best.
Anything smoother just gums up.

And it's best to treat it on both sides before putting it up.

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Offline bruegf

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Re: TimberSIL Wood Products - Anybody here actually used them??
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2010, 01:22 PM »
Wood infused with sand sounds like it would be really tough on saw blades and router bits, etc.

I've used burmese teak which contains a lot of silica and it just chews up my jointer knives.

Any word on how tough TimberSIL will be on cutters?

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Offline Roger Savatteri

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Re: TimberSIL Wood Products - Anybody here actually used them??
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2010, 01:39 PM »
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Fred,

From what I've read so far it seems that it doesn't beat up the blades "that much".
That said this is for facia and house construction needs,
so I won't be putting this through my planer and jointer as I would if I were making furniture.

That said again, I'd rather go through another set of blades than dealing with toxic "treated" lumber for outdoor use.
And let's not forget the fire resistant benefits.

Again, I give up another set of blades for that benefit alone.

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Offline Tom Bellemare

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Re: TimberSIL Wood Products - Anybody here actually used them??
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2010, 02:27 PM »
Isn't that the stuff that's impregnated with waterglass, what we used to use to seal radiator leaks and such?


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Offline josephgewing

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Re: TimberSIL Wood Products - Anybody here actually used them??
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2010, 03:13 PM »
What about HardiePlank?
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Offline bruegf

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Re: TimberSIL Wood Products - Anybody here actually used them??
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2010, 03:19 PM »
Circular saw blades are definitely cheap enough that blade life isn't a concern for that kind of usage.   I was just curious in general about how tough it would be on cutter life.

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Offline Deansocial

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Re: TimberSIL Wood Products - Anybody here actually used them??
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2010, 05:39 PM »
is it simalar to accoya?   http://www.accoya.com/accoya.html

Offline jonny round boy

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Re: TimberSIL Wood Products - Anybody here actually used them??
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2010, 05:55 PM »
is it simalar to accoya?   http://www.accoya.com/accoya.html

No, I don't think it is. Accoya is treated with acetic acid (vinegar). This stuff seems to be impregnated with glass.

Has anyone used accoya yet? I know they say this on the website, but it does seem too good to be true.
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Offline Deansocial

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Re: TimberSIL Wood Products - Anybody here actually used them??
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2010, 03:38 AM »
Yeah i have used it. It is quite light weight and machines up quite nice. the colour aint bad either.

Offline jonny round boy

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Re: TimberSIL Wood Products - Anybody here actually used them??
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2010, 04:49 AM »
Yeah i have used it. It is quite light weight and machines up quite nice. the colour aint bad either.

Dean,

what sort of price is it compared to, say, softwood or oak?
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Offline Deansocial

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Re: TimberSIL Wood Products - Anybody here actually used them??
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2010, 05:28 AM »
i think it is more like oak price to be honest. it was 2 years ago since i used it. i know the larger stuff comes fingerjointed together

Offline mattdavis1991

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Re: TimberSIL Wood Products - Anybody here actually used them??
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2013, 12:00 PM »
I worked for timbersil of texas. I know what this wood is all about. It comes from the factory with nothing but issues. It eventually no matter what ends up splitting on the ends. It has terrible bows, crooks and crowns that form over time. Or they will just ship it to you with the issues. I know this because they made me do it. Its a terrible company. NOTHING BUT A SCAM. The silicate in it eventually seeps out causing issues with paint/ stain. My advise DONT DO IT. IM WARNING EVERYONE ON HERE! DO NOT BUY TIMBERSIL. Good luck.

Offline ShawnRussell

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Re: TimberSIL Wood Products - Anybody here actually used them??
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2013, 06:14 PM »
@Roger I am curious if you went with TimberSil?

Matt's words are not hollow. On many other forums people have spoken about how TimberSil rotted away after a few years. I wonder if they have resolved those issues from years ago.

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