Author Topic: Plywood Prices... argh! (Read 15910 times)

Packard · « **Reply #60 on:** November 20, 2022, 04:58 PM »

I went last week to one of the big box stores to buy a sheet of 3/4” hardwood plywood.

Birch: $89.95 per 4’ x 8’ sheet.

Maple: $83.95 for the same size sheet.

I would have thought that the maple would have cost more than the birch.

Sheik Maboutie · « **Reply #61 on:** November 21, 2022, 12:40 PM »

Think of us in Ireland, here it is $123 for an 8 x 4 sheet of 3/4 Birch plywood 😳

SRSemenza · « **Reply #62 on:** November 21, 2022, 05:14 PM »

Quote from: Sheik Maboutie on November 21, 2022, 12:40 PM

Think of us in Ireland, here it is $123 for an 8 x 4 sheet of 3/4 Birch plywood 😳

It is that much or more here in the USA if you get the good stuff as opposed to from a big box. I recently was quoted $180.00 for 3/4" birch and that was furniture grade veneer, not Baltic Birch.

Oh, BTW, it's 4 x 8, not 8 x 4

Seth

Richard/RMW · « **Reply #63 on:** November 21, 2022, 06:14 PM »

Quote from: SRSemenza on November 21, 2022, 05:14 PM

It is that much or more here in the USA if you get the good stuff as opposed to from a big box. I recently was quoted $180.00 for 3/4" birch and that was furniture grade veneer, not Baltic Birch.

Oh, BTW, it's 4 x 8, not 8 x 4

Seth

Actually 1220 by 2440, for the 18mm anyway...

RMW

smorgasbord · « **Reply #64 on:** November 21, 2022, 09:49 PM »

The A1 Cherry plywood I just bought measured 1232 x 2451, fwiw.

tjbnwi · « **Reply #65 on:** November 21, 2022, 10:02 PM »

Quote from: SRSemenza on November 21, 2022, 05:14 PM

Quote from: Sheik Maboutie on November 21, 2022, 12:40 PM
Think of us in Ireland, here it is $123 for an 8 x 4 sheet of 3/4 Birch plywood 😳

It is that much or more here in the USA if you get the good stuff as opposed to from a big box. I recently was quoted $180.00 for 3/4" birch and that was furniture grade veneer, not Baltic Birch.

Oh, BTW, it's 4 x 8, not 8 x 4

Seth

When I order 8x4, the supplier knows I want the grain running in the short bias.

Tom

4nthony · « **Reply #66 on:** December 15, 2022, 01:43 AM »

Today in Los Angeles, for 4x8 sheets, I paid...

$253 for a 3/4 sheet of rift-sawn white oak plywood
$107 for a 1/4 sheet of quarter-sawn white oak plywood

GregorHochschild · « **Reply #67 on:** December 15, 2022, 10:08 AM »

Interesting. I just payed $200 per sheet of 3/4 rift-sawn white oak in the Boston area. That was a little drive though. The closer lumber yard was around $250 as well.

Quote from: 4nthony on December 15, 2022, 01:43 AM

Today in Los Angeles, for 4x8 sheets, I paid...

$253 for a 3/4 sheet of rift-sawn white oak plywood
$107 for a 1/4 sheet of quarter-sawn white oak plywood

squall_line · « **Reply #68 on:** December 15, 2022, 10:16 AM »

I've been watching Romex prices lately because I have a project coming up soon. I made the mistake of looking at price history (250' of 14/3 for under 20 cents/foot only three years ago seems insane), but it was mainly because I wanted to see if it was on its way down or up.

In any case, some of the more specialty stuff like 14/2/2 is all over the place, and has jumped 25-40% in the last two weeks at one of the big boxes (it's really not even in stock almost anywhere), but at least stuff like 14/2 and 14/3 have been relatively stable.

Even OSB is still kinda crazy.

Mark Katz · « **Reply #69 on:** December 15, 2022, 01:12 PM »

Quote from: GregorHochschild on December 15, 2022, 10:08 AM

Interesting. I just payed $200 per sheet of 3/4 rift-sawn white oak in the Boston area. That was a little drive though. The closer lumber yard was around $250 as well.

Curious where you got yours at $200 per sheet. My go-to for plywood is Boulter Plywood and I see that they are around $250, so I'm guessing that's the other place you referenced. I'm at the southern end of Boston proper.

How was the quality? Boulter's is usually A-1 which means the back is pretty good (sometimes as good as the front).

Steve1 · « **Reply #70 on:** December 16, 2022, 08:14 AM »

Around here, plywood has gone down a little, in general, so its not too bad.

But for a project I am working on, I really wanted Baltic Birch. Its going to get veneered, but I wanted the stability and flatness of the BB.

Unfortunately, the only place in my town that sells Baltic Birch is Home Depot in the 2x4' size, which results in an incredible amount of waste for the sizes I need.

So I drove 2 hours there, and 2 hours back, for the privilege of paying $C178 ($US 134) each for a couple of 5' x 5' panels. Let me do the math - that is only 25 square feet rather than 32 sq feet of a 4x8 panel. And that place won't cut it for me. So I brought my circular saw and cut it in the parking lot so it will fit in my car.

GregorHochschild · « **Reply #71 on:** December 16, 2022, 09:47 AM »

Boulter is the “close by” place I was talking about. They are great but pricy, I think. They also mainly have surfaced hardwood, which again is expensive if you have access to a jointer/planer.

My new favorite place is Readers (see below). About 1 hour south from Boston. They are awesome!! Huge selection of rough sawn hardwood, some surfaced as well, very good selection of plywood. Top quality. Really nice family business. The rift sawn WO was A1. They can also make cuts for you if you need that. Highly recommend them.

Readers hardwood supply
https://readershardwoodsupply.com
(508) 301-3206
250 Cape Hwy, Unit 9
East Taunton, MA 02718
Hours: 7:30 AM – 4:00 PM

Quote from: Mark Katz on December 15, 2022, 01:12 PM

Quote from: GregorHochschild on December 15, 2022, 10:08 AM
Interesting. I just payed $200 per sheet of 3/4 rift-sawn white oak in the Boston area. That was a little drive though. The closer lumber yard was around $250 as well.

Curious where you got yours at $200 per sheet. My go-to for plywood is Boulter Plywood and I see that they are around $250, so I'm guessing that's the other place you referenced. I'm at the southern end of Boston proper.

How was the quality? Boulter's is usually A-1 which means the back is pretty good (sometimes as good as the front).

Packard · « **Reply #72 on:** December 16, 2022, 09:49 AM »

And try buying 1/4” thick MDF.

My lumber supplier no longer carries MDF. Said he can’t make a profit on the stuff.

Home Depot and Lowes only carry 2’ x 4’ sheets.

If you want to use MDF for the center panel of a shaker door, you can get one door per sheet (assuming 40” wall cabinets.

1/2” is available in full sheets and costs less to use than 1/4”, but involves an extra step to reduce the thickness around the perimeter.

MDF bead board (primed) is available in full sheets and I see some people use that with Shaker cabinets, but it looks wrong to me.

My most recent doors were made using 1/2” thick plywood, which would still be cheaper than using 1/4” mdf.

Addendum: Also note that MDF used to come with a “calendared” finish on both sides. This is a final hard roller finish achieved by rolling between smooth steel rolls in paper production and I assume the same process is used for MDF. The result was that the flat surfaces were shiny and smooth and accepted paint exceptionally well.

The stuff I am finding now is slightly rough, and looks even worse when you apply a water based finish (looks like sandpaper). I used to like using MDF for painted projects because it accepted water based paints so well. Nowadays, I prefer to use plywood and if the edges are to be painted, then use filler and sand smooth (too much work).

Mark Katz · « **Reply #73 on:** December 17, 2022, 06:57 AM »

Quote from: GregorHochschild on December 16, 2022, 09:47 AM

My new favorite place is Readers (see below). About 1 hour south from Boston. They are awesome!! Huge selection of rough sawn hardwood, some surfaced as well, very good selection of plywood. Top quality. Really nice family business. The rift sawn WO was A1. They can also make cuts for you if you need that. Highly recommend them.

Readers hardwood supply
https://readershardwoodsupply.com
(508) 301-3206
250 Cape Hwy, Unit 9
East Taunton, MA 02718
Hours: 7:30 AM – 4:00 PM

This is really interesting. For a long time my source for hardwood was Downes & Reader in Stoughton, but I hadn't been there for a long time. Then they got bought out by a company called Rugby ABP and a friend said it wasn't as good anymore because they didn't let you pick your own boards. I'm not sure if that was a pandemic restriction or a permanent change.

I wonder if Reader's in East Taunton is a reincarnation of Downes and Reader. It would be a 45 minute drive for me, compared to 25 minutes to Rugby ABP but seemingly worth it. Will definitely keep them in mind as I much prefer rough lumber to the surfaced stuff at Boulter.

GregorHochschild · « **Reply #74 on:** December 17, 2022, 08:14 PM »

Yes, I think that is correct. I don't know the name of the previous place but the owner of Readers hardwood supply used to own a different lumber yard, which was sold. He opened Readers after the sale contract allowed him to start a competing business. Based on what you are saying, I assume that was Downes & Reader.

You can certainly pick your boards at Readers and take as much time as you want!

Quote from: Mark Katz on December 17, 2022, 06:57 AM

Quote from: GregorHochschild on December 16, 2022, 09:47 AM
My new favorite place is Readers (see below). About 1 hour south from Boston. They are awesome!! Huge selection of rough sawn hardwood, some surfaced as well, very good selection of plywood. Top quality. Really nice family business. The rift sawn WO was A1. They can also make cuts for you if you need that. Highly recommend them.

Readers hardwood supply
https://readershardwoodsupply.com
(508) 301-3206
250 Cape Hwy, Unit 9
East Taunton, MA 02718
Hours: 7:30 AM – 4:00 PM

This is really interesting. For a long time my source for hardwood was Downes & Reader in Stoughton, but I hadn't been there for a long time. Then they got bought out by a company called Rugby ABP and a friend said it wasn't as good anymore because they didn't let you pick your own boards. I'm not sure if that was a pandemic restriction or a permanent change.

I wonder if Reader's in East Taunton is a reincarnation of Downes and Reader. It would be a 45 minute drive for me, compared to 25 minutes to Rugby ABP but seemingly worth it. Will definitely keep them in mind as I much prefer rough lumber to the surfaced stuff at Boulter.

krudawg · « **Reply #75 on:** January 01, 2023, 09:02 AM »

$110 for a sheet (4X8) of maple plywood at Lowes

Richard/RMW · « **Reply #76 on:** January 01, 2023, 10:47 AM »

3/4 in. x 4 ft. x 8 ft. PureBond Birch Plywood $84 at HD. IIRC it broached $100 at one point. Was reliably <$60 in the before times.

My hunch is this is the new normal.

RMW

woodferret · « **Reply #77 on:** January 04, 2023, 08:46 PM »

Transport and glue prices seem to be pulling everything up. Everything is oil-based despite how green wood is ;P

Coen · « **Reply #78 on:** January 20, 2023, 12:53 PM »

Bought a quarter sheet (1220x610) 18mm concrete plywood (is that even a valid translation?) with smooth finish for €39 (including 21% VAT). Still made the DIY carts a lot cheaper and smaller than the official Sortimo ones.

hdv · « **Reply #79 on:** January 20, 2023, 01:44 PM »

I think your are talking about "betonplex"? As far as I know that is translated to phenolic coated plywood or phenolic plywood for short.

Coen · « **Reply #80 on:** January 20, 2023, 05:16 PM »

Quote from: hdv on January 20, 2023, 01:44 PM

I think your are talking about "betonplex"? As far as I know that is translated to phenolic coated plywood or phenolic plywood for short.

Yes, betonplex

4nthony · « **Reply #81 on:** February 02, 2023, 06:02 PM »

Today in Los Angeles...

$46.92 for 6mm (1/4") Baltic Birch 5x5
$99.08 for 15mm (5/8") Baltic Birch 5x5

SRSemenza · « **Reply #82 on:** February 02, 2023, 06:04 PM »

Quote from: 4nthony on February 02, 2023, 06:02 PM

Today in Los Angeles...

$46.92 for 6mm (1/4") Baltic Birch 5x5
$99.08 for 15mm (5/8") Baltic Birch 5x5

If it is the really good stuff that is pretty much back to normal. A few months ago I paid about $100 for 6mm 5 x 5.

Seth

4nthony · « **Reply #83 on:** February 02, 2023, 06:20 PM »

Quote from: SRSemenza on February 02, 2023, 06:04 PM

If it is the really good stuff that is pretty much back to normal. A few months ago I paid about $100 for 6mm 5 x 5.

Seth

Looking at the invoice, it says BB/BB (patches on both sides).

I don't think I've ever seen B/BB at my local dealer.

MikeGE · « **Reply #84 on:** February 02, 2023, 08:06 PM »

Prices for 2500x1250x18mm A/B beech and birch plywood are still high in my area. A sheet of beech is €244.89 (about $265.87 USD) and a sheet of birch is €266.30 (about $290.18 USD), with a maximum purchase of ten sheets per customer.

The best price I've seen at the big box stores for a 2500x1250x18mm sheet of birch plywood is €134.90 (about $147.00 USD), but the grade is BB/WG (suitable for construction applications).

Coen · « **Reply #85 on:** February 05, 2023, 06:20 PM »

Weird. First one I look up is 90 euros, for construction plywood 2440x1220x18

Usually Germany is cheaper with just about everything.

Local stock is pretty much non existent though

Big box stores don't even list the wood type or finish type

woodbutcherbower · « **Reply #86 on:** February 13, 2023, 11:42 AM »

52 x lengths kiln-dried European oak, picked up from the sawmill today. 2m long x 145mm wide x 21mm thick (6” x 1” nominal) for some traditional ledged & braced cottage doors.

£2080 - that’s just over $2500 US.

krudawg · « **Reply #87 on:** February 18, 2023, 09:32 AM »

Quote from: Ross Davis on March 24, 2022, 08:11 AM

Just curious...

So what are you paying for plywood these days?

My local Menards prices are up about 50% or so.

Has anyone been forced to cancel or delay jobs do to the hefty prices?

Any thoughts if prices will drop within the next year?

I just bought a 5X5 sheet of 3/4" Baltic Birch at Woodworkers Source and paid $149 - shocking

DynaGlide · « **Reply #88 on:** February 18, 2023, 11:45 AM »

Quote from: krudawg on February 18, 2023, 09:32 AM

Quote from: Ross Davis on March 24, 2022, 08:11 AM
Just curious...

So what are you paying for plywood these days?

My local Menards prices are up about 50% or so.

Has anyone been forced to cancel or delay jobs do to the hefty prices?

Any thoughts if prices will drop within the next year?

I just bought a 5X5 sheet of 3/4" Baltic Birch at Woodworkers Source and paid $149 - shocking

@krudawg

Might be worth shopping around. Lumber yards around here are closer to $100.

Richard/RMW · « **Reply #89 on:** February 24, 2023, 01:09 PM »

Forget plywood..... $50 bucks for a cedar fence post?!?!?

Guess it pays to be old and have most of the stuff we'll need to make it through the rest of our lives. I do miss the before-times.

RMW