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Offline Reiska

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Glues to use for outside furniture?
« on: June 12, 2012, 03:02 AM »
I'm getting ready to start building some outdoor storage boxes with dominoes and I'm wondering which type of glue to use.

I presume Titebond 3 would be a safe bet, but its a bit hard to find around these parts and most water resistant glues here reference some specification of D3, not for under water applications - would that be somewhat equivalent to the ANSI Type I or II water resistance standards that are referenced at TB's web site for TB2 & 3?

Products easily available here are Erikeeper and Casco Adhesives.
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Offline Kev

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Re: Glues to use for outside furniture?
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2012, 04:10 AM »
Are you looking for a glue to seal the Beech dominoes or are you using Sipo?

My local told me the best glue to use for outdoor - unfortunately I'd need to ask them again ;-( but it certainly wasn't either of the ones you mention.

Pretty certain it was a two part epoxy ... I think.

Offline Guy Ashley

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Re: Glues to use for outside furniture?
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2012, 05:36 AM »
For exterior joinery the "industry standard" tends to be Cascamite

http://www.axminster.co.uk/cascamite-powdered-resin-wood-glue-prod21688/

but if it is going to be subjected to a lot of damp then a two part like the West System is good to go

http://www.axminster.co.uk/west-system-west-system-epoxy-large-pack-prod22120/
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Offline Kev

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Re: Glues to use for outside furniture?
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2012, 06:41 AM »
but if it is going to be subjected to a lot of damp then a two part like the West System is good to go

http://www.axminster.co.uk/west-system-west-system-epoxy-large-pack-prod22120/

There you go - that was the sort of stuff they were saying to use !

Offline Reiska

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Re: Glues to use for outside furniture?
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2012, 07:34 AM »
Two boxes will be under a balcony and the other two on the roofless balcony 365 days a year. So rain, hail, snow, wind, sun all will be there with temps ranging from -25C to +50C (in direct sun).

I'm planning on using sipo dominoes and the wood is brown pressure treated pine.

I'll see what two component polys can be acquired locally (since they are Uk mainland only delivery) or then I'll order a bucket of Cascamite since that seems to transportable in the mail.

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Offline Mauri Motti

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Re: Glues to use for outside furniture?
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2012, 09:51 AM »
Hi Reiska,

I have used Titebond II (in my opinion not much difference between Titebond II or III) Even used it in sauna for plugs, same for my outdoor doors.
Kiilto B2 does the job too but doesn't hold as long imho.

Offline Mauri Motti

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Re: Glues to use for outside furniture?
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2012, 09:57 AM »
Oh, and not that you can go wrong using Titebond III ! But I don't think its worth the extra bucks. Do you buy yours from Plectra trading? I have bought from there a couple a times. They get it from Dicktum but ask a few extra Euros. I usually buy strait from Dicktum with other really necessary stuff... you know, its a good excuse  [laughing] Stefan ( the man that runs Plectra Trading, says Dicktum and Plectra are kinda under one roof but Finnish prices are a tad higher. But last time I was there I found out that i.e. their price for the Veritas router plane had a 70€ difference. Dicktum for me then it is...

Offline jobsworth

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Re: Glues to use for outside furniture?
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2012, 09:57 AM »
« Last Edit: June 27, 2012, 10:02 AM by sancho57 »

Offline Kev

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Re: Glues to use for outside furniture?
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2012, 10:12 AM »
Id give Gorilla Glue a try

http://www.gorillatough.com/index.php?page=gorilla-glue

The Gorilla Glue as opposed to the Gorilla "Wood Glue" I'm assuming ....

I used it the other day to glue plastic corner cover strips to painted ply. Awesome stuff!

Haven't tried the Gorilla Epoxy yet.

Offline Reiska

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Re: Glues to use for outside furniture?
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2012, 11:32 AM »
I managed to get a bottle of TB3 from the local specialist toolshop mentioned above by Mauri and my box of Sipo tennons arrived today so I'm all set - just waiting for my holiday to begin next week...  [cool]
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