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Offline obdoor

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door stile adhesives
« on: September 30, 2012, 01:56 PM »
I'm planning to vacuum bag stiles and rails  using black walnut over a  timberstrand  core , which adhesive would you recommend ?

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Offline woodguy7

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Re: door stile adhesives
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2012, 03:06 AM »
What is "timber strand" ?

Never done this but something I am very interested in.  Would like to see the results when you do it.

Woodguy.
If its made of wood, i can make it smaller.
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Offline kcufstoidi

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Re: door stile adhesives
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2012, 05:54 AM »
Unibond 800.

John

Offline Peter Halle

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Re: door stile adhesives
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2012, 07:23 AM »
What is "timber strand" ?

Never done this but something I am very interested in.  Would like to see the results when you do it.

Woodguy.

Timberstrand is engineered lumber made up of strands of wood glued together.  Here is a link:  Timberstrand

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Offline woodguy7

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Re: door stile adhesives
« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2012, 07:40 AM »
Ah, like OSB.
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Re: door stile adhesives
« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2012, 08:24 AM »
Ah, like OSB.

Similar, but I think that the strands are longer, and oriented in a specific direction. 


In making the door, how thick is the material (veneer) that you are going to laminate.  Is the surface of the timber strand smooth?  I am very interested in seeing how this proceeds.  Would love to see pics of the process if possible.

As posted before Unibond 800 or one of the urea formaldehyde glues is normally recommended for veneering or gluing if you have a difficult situation and desire a high strength rigid glue line.  I think that overseas they call this type of glue Casamite ( forgive the spelling)?

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Offline Tim Raleigh

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Re: door stile adhesives
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2012, 09:24 AM »
I'm planning to vacuum bag stiles and rails  using black walnut over a  timberstrand  core , which adhesive would you recommend ?

I am curious as to why you are using timberstrand vs. poplar etc.
Is this a cost issue?
Tim

Offline woodguy7

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Re: door stile adhesives
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2012, 06:15 PM »
I would have thought the substrate would not be smooth enough for veneering onto !  Unless the veneer is on the thicker side of course.
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Offline WarnerConstCo.

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Re: door stile adhesives
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2012, 06:46 PM »
Just making a stave core door.  Face veneers are thinner, hinge side or strike side is thick 1/4" I think, then they glue a square on to run the cope and stick.  

Panels are solid wood.  I hate to say it, but that makes for a really flat and straight door, that will stay flat and straight.

Seems like it would be a slow process for a small shop to make doors though.  Stave cores are relatively inexpensive doors (250 for slabs 300 prehung).

I like solid wood doors, but they are expensive to buy, even more so to make and if you don't know what you are doing while choosing your lumber and processing it, you can end up with an expensive warped door.  

They run some sort of urea glues on giant glue line machines.

Oh, you just plane the timberstrad or lvl or whatever to the thickness you need.  Stuff planes nice, with a large machine.

  
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Offline obdoor

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Re: door stile adhesives
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2012, 08:14 AM »
I'm using the timberstrand as the core for stability as I'm building a 32 x 84 full view door using black walnut as my face and edge veneer. My edges will be 3/4 ", and faces  will be 3/8"thick.I don't trust the stability of solid walnut for 2'' thick 4'' wide 84'' long stiles. I've settled on UltraCat for the adhesive. Thanks for all past and future input.