Author Topic: Blum® 110° Soft-Close BLUMotion Clip Top Overlay Hinges for Frameless Cabinets  (Read 2526 times)

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Offline Dusty.Tools

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Does anyone have some tips on how to navigate this list of Blum parts for their hinges?

I'm trying to buy hinges for ten full overlay frameless cabinet doors, made of 1/2" plyboo. Rockler has a set, I think the price is reasonable:

https://www.rockler.com/blumreg-110deg-soft-close-blumotion-clip-top-overlay-hinges-for-frameless-cabinets-hinges

but I always like to shop around.

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Offline Packard

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Blum makes a dizzying array of hinges and slides. 

I downloaded and printed their entire catalog (about 100 pages), punched 3 holes in each sheet and put it in a loose leaf binder.

I first study the catalog until I think I have the right item.  Then I google (video) for that part number. 

Blum has easily the best videos for understanding the parts. 

The retailer “Cabinet Parts” also has good instructional videos and decent prices.

A H Turf has the best pricing, but a dreadful website.  You have to know the exact part number before going to their site and not to worry that the images are frequently incorrect. 

I printed the catalog because the images and data appear too small on a normal computer screen.  The paper is easier to read. 

If it is any consolation, most people stick with one or two styles.  After that, it is just re-ordering.

Offline woodferret

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The cruciform pages in the catalogue are kinda meh.  Still worth taking a look though.

Your material and construction type will dictate the screw-type.

Crappy particleboard and MDF tend to steer towards the dowel types.  If you're CNCing or want to do the LR32 on the mount holes, then you can choose the 5mm screw holes (listed as 6.1mm).  Plywood and manual installs are going to be the #6 wood screws.  Unfortunately, the 5mm system mounts are not interchangable with the other two options as they use larger holes.  Although you can mount with a #7 screw if need be.  The dowel types can be used with #6 screws.  Just unmount the plastic dowels.

The offset amount, ie. 0mm 3mm 6mm or 9mm are from this table on page 75 from the catalog for the 110 hinge.

359348-0

Start on how you want the overlay (purple).  FA is measured from the inside edge, not the F as in the diagram (but I highlighted the wrong one). 

Then choose the least obnoxious MD (yellow) that'll let you still hit the range.  This is the cruciform height. 

Occasionally, sometimes your door construction may dictate how far you can shift that hinge cup (green) and limit which option you choose.

You can see that adding height to the cruciform lets you shift it inward.  With the dual hinge type, you can thus choose to inset or overlay, or half overlay because it can span all options by changing cruciform.

Unless your min-maxing inventory, I'd avoid the dual though and just grab the appropriate hinge as need be.  Some of the high cruciforms look kinda silly.

** Adding that dowel types do require some force to set the plate and hinges.  They sell Blum hammer jigs but you can also just use a block of wood and be careful.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2023, 04:17 PM by woodferret »

Offline Dusty.Tools

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The cruciform pages in the catalogue are kinda meh.  Still worth taking a look though.

Your material and construction type will dictate the screw-type.

Crappy particleboard and MDF tend to steer towards the dowel types.  If you're CNCing or want to do the LR32 on the mount holes, then you can choose the 5mm screw holes (listed as 6.1mm).  Plywood and manual installs are going to be the #6 wood screws.  Unfortunately, the 5mm system mounts are not interchangable with the other two options as they use larger holes.  Although you can mount with a #7 screw if need be.  The dowel types can be used with #6 screws.  Just unmount the plastic dowels.

The offset amount, ie. 0mm 3mm 6mm or 9mm are from this table on page 75 from the catalog for the 110 hinge.

(Attachment Link)

Start on how you want the overlay (purple).  FA is measured from the inside edge, not the F as in the diagram (but I highlighted the wrong one). 

Then choose the least obnoxious MD (yellow) that'll let you still hit the range.  This is the cruciform height. 

Occasionally, sometimes your door construction may dictate how far you can shift that hinge cup (green) and limit which option you choose.

You can see that adding height to the cruciform lets you shift it inward.  With the dual hinge type, you can thus choose to inset or overlay, or half overlay because it can span all options by changing cruciform.

Unless your min-maxing inventory, I'd avoid the dual though and just grab the appropriate hinge as need be.  Some of the high cruciforms look kinda silly.

** Adding that dowel types do require some force to set the plate and hinges.  They sell Blum hammer jigs but you can also just use a block of wood and be careful.

Thank you, I am glad I'm not being dumb, it's as complicated as it looks!

So I need:
- a 12.7mm overlay (edge of the plyboo), so 12mm
- Cruciform height of 3
- I will either CNC or Lr32, so 5mm screws (6.1 mm)

That definitely narrows it down, thank you!
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Offline Dusty.Tools

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Blum makes a dizzying array of hinges and slides. 

I downloaded and printed their entire catalog (about 100 pages), punched 3 holes in each sheet and put it in a loose leaf binder.

I first study the catalog until I think I have the right item.  Then I google (video) for that part number. 

Blum has easily the best videos for understanding the parts. 

The retailer “Cabinet Parts” also has good instructional videos and decent prices.

A H Turf has the best pricing, but a dreadful website.  You have to know the exact part number before going to their site and not to worry that the images are frequently incorrect. 

I printed the catalog because the images and data appear too small on a normal computer screen.  The paper is easier to read. 

If it is any consolation, most people stick with one or two styles.  After that, it is just re-ordering.

Thanks, cabinet parts had a nice wizard, looks like it agrees with woodferrets recommendation!
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