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Offline fdengel

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Re: Which Dust Collector? mini or 26...or other?
« Reply #30 on: August 30, 2011, 07:17 AM »
In the past, some of the tools, such as the planers, strongly recommended the use of the larger vacs (22/33/26/36) over the mini/midi.  If you plan on expanding into the use of some of the other tools, you might want to check recommendations on the tools you expect to buy later.

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Offline greenMonster

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Re: Which Dust Collector? mini or 26...or other?
« Reply #31 on: August 30, 2011, 09:15 AM »
Thanks for the help everyone!

Mini now (and most likely the 26 down the road).

So, now just to decide who to give my hard earned cash to. What should I consider as to who I go to?
Is the dealer at all involved in servicing, warranting etc? Or do I have to deal directly with Festool for everything?

(seeing as the pricing is all the same, if I have to deal with Festool...I guess it wouldn't really matter eh?)

I went to a local and close by woodcraft to initially check everything out...
(or Rockler, who appears to be cheaper?)

*PM me if discussin specific dealers is frowned upon
« Last Edit: August 30, 2011, 09:20 AM by greenMonster »

Offline Brice Burrell

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Re: Which Dust Collector? mini or 26...or other?
« Reply #32 on: August 30, 2011, 04:26 PM »
It's perfectly fine to discuss dealers here.  Some dealers will assist you with warranty service but Festool services all of the tools so you can contact them directly for the fastest service. 

We have several good Festool dealers that participate here on the FOG that I and many other members have had good service from.  In no particular order.
Bob Marino's Best tools, Tom at Tool Home and Sean at Festool products.

Offline greenMonster

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Re: Which Dust Collector? mini or 26...or other?
« Reply #33 on: August 30, 2011, 07:57 PM »
Thanks, I've been trying to figure out why one festool dealer would be better than any other one.
Other than help answering questions (sales)...

I'm inclined to just shop locally so I don't have to deal with shipping. I feel like I must be missing something obvious  [blink] as some dealers seem to be very recommended.

Offline Alex

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Re: Which Dust Collector? mini or 26...or other?
« Reply #34 on: August 30, 2011, 08:45 PM »

I'm inclined to just shop locally so I don't have to deal with shipping. I feel like I must be missing something obvious  [blink] as some dealers seem to be very recommended.


Lots of people in the States don't have Festool dealers close by. Others prefer to order out of state to save on taxes. Of course the dealers here are very recommended, they're part of the community and they give you great service. Since they're so involved with Festool and it's community you'll probably get better service from them than, lets say,  the average HD.

I prefer to shop locally too. For me it's not a big deal, there's like 50 dealers in a 50 km radius around me. I've found out by now which dealers really care for their customers and which don't. But I haven't found any dealer in my country with the knowledge and dedication you find with the dealers on this forum.

Offline greenMonster

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Re: Which Dust Collector? mini or 26...or other?
« Reply #35 on: August 30, 2011, 09:29 PM »
good points, thanks.
Clarifies what I was thinking

I also have a few Q's about the MFT and TS55, is it preferred to keep it all in one thread or to start a new thread for each topic?

Offline Brice Burrell

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Re: Which Dust Collector? mini or 26...or other?
« Reply #36 on: August 30, 2011, 09:44 PM »
good points, thanks.
Clarifies what I was thinking

I also have a few Q's about the MFT and TS55, is it preferred to keep it all in one thread or to start a new thread for each topic?

I believe all three dealers have I linked to above offer free shipping.

You can start a new thread if you'd like or just ask here.

Offline greenMonster

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Re: Which Dust Collector? mini or 26...or other?
« Reply #37 on: August 30, 2011, 10:00 PM »
good points, thanks.
Clarifies what I was thinking

I also have a few Q's about the MFT and TS55, is it preferred to keep it all in one thread or to start a new thread for each topic?

I believe all three dealers have I linked to above offer free shipping.

You can start a new thread if you'd like or just ask here.

hmmm, just revisted and more importantly no tax (except nj and ohio).

Offline greenMonster

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Re: Which Dust Collector? mini or 26...or other?
« Reply #38 on: August 31, 2011, 03:41 PM »
So from what I understand, the manuals supplied from Festool...are a bit "lacking".

I found this supplemental for the MFT
http://www.festoolusa.com/media/pdf/getting_the_most_from_the_mft_multifunction_table.pdf
(Too bad it's for the previous styles  [unsure])

Are there supplementals for the CTs or the TS55?

Also, any words of advice before I rip open my boxes when I get them....burn through my zero clearance haphazardly, cut through the rubber strip and make mayhem kerfs all over the mft?
Anything I MUST do, or must NOT do?

Offline Alex

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Re: Which Dust Collector? mini or 26...or other?
« Reply #39 on: August 31, 2011, 04:14 PM »
Are there supplementals for the CTs or the TS55?

There is one for the TS55, done by Rick Christopherson. Link.

I don't think there are any supplemental manuals for the CT vacs, but I don't think you'll need one either because the vacs are fairly simple machines. The standard manual should suffice.

You can find all manuals on the Festool website.

Offline Brice Burrell

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Re: Which Dust Collector? mini or 26...or other?
« Reply #40 on: August 31, 2011, 04:23 PM »
You might find this video helpful.


Offline greenMonster

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Re: Which Dust Collector? mini or 26...or other?
« Reply #41 on: August 31, 2011, 05:33 PM »
ah perfect, nice!

Yeah, I guess it is just a vac at the end of the day  [embarassed]

Offline greenMonster

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Re: Which Dust Collector? mini or 26...or other?
« Reply #42 on: September 01, 2011, 10:09 AM »
Just put my order in for the mft/ts55, 3000mm rail (thanks Ken) and ct mini with Bob (Thanks brice, saved me a few bucks on tax [big grin])!!!

Hope I don't regret the mini  [unsure]

Offline Ken Nagrod

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Re: Which Dust Collector? mini or 26...or other?
« Reply #43 on: September 01, 2011, 10:18 AM »
Enjoy the start of a nice collection!  I have a feeling you'll be back for more goodies as funds permit.

Offline Alex

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Re: Which Dust Collector? mini or 26...or other?
« Reply #44 on: September 01, 2011, 12:45 PM »
Alex, that's an internal engineering number, like a schematic number. It's not, to my knowledge, anywhere on the tools. If you look, none of the EKAT numbers match the order/catalog numbers.

Lol, you're right, those numbers aren't in the Ekat. Ok, I'll shut up and let you Americans sort it out for yourself. At least when I see one, I know where to look to see the difference.

Just found this Mini with number 456784 in the USA Ekat.  [cool]

Offline greenMonster

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Re: Which Dust Collector? mini or 26...or other?
« Reply #45 on: September 02, 2011, 11:32 AM »
linky doesn't work.

Package is 4 hrs away, but they don't estimate arrival till next tuesday  [crying]


*bah! they just called and set up time for next thursday. boo!
wonder if theyd let me pick it up....
« Last Edit: September 02, 2011, 01:53 PM by greenMonster »

Offline Alex

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Re: Which Dust Collector? mini or 26...or other?
« Reply #46 on: September 02, 2011, 12:38 PM »
linky doesn't work.

Hm, session expired error. I really don't like the java script they use for the Ekat.

To find it you can start here.

Then go to FESTOOL USA / CAN > Dust extractor > CT mobile dust extractors.

Re: Which Dust Collector? mini or 26...or other?
« Reply #47 on: September 05, 2011, 12:39 AM »
I have a mini and love it.  I have not found an application that it will not handle.  I even use it on my monster router table and it handles that very well.  In general I like the smaller Festools better.  Find myself reaching for the 1010 router more often than my 1400 or my 2200.  I don't have a TS75 saw because my 55 does everything I need.  I have both planers but I always use the smaller one.   I occasionally use the larger sanders, but because the DTS55 is so handy and controllable it gets 90 percent of my work.  The exception is my T15 drill.   I don't feel that I need anything smaller, although I have not used the smaller, new one. 

If you have a 2200 router you might want the bigger unit, but my mini seems to work fine.  The bag capacity of the larger units might be a consideration, but honestly, it hasn't been a problem for me.

Besides, a mini is cheaper - more money for more Festools.   It's an addiction. 

Jim

Offline Ken Nagrod

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Re: Which Dust Collector? mini or 26...or other?
« Reply #48 on: September 05, 2011, 12:57 AM »
I have a mini and love it.  I have not found an application that it will not handle.  I even use it on my monster router table and it handles that very well.  In general I like the smaller Festools better.  Find myself reaching for the 1010 router more often than my 1400 or my 2200.  I don't have a TS75 saw because my 55 does everything I need.  I have both planers but I always use the smaller one.   I occasionally use the larger sanders, but because the DTS55 is so handy and controllable it gets 90 percent of my work.  The exception is my T15 drill.   I don't feel that I need anything smaller, although I have not used the smaller, new one. 

If you have a 2200 router you might want the bigger unit, but my mini seems to work fine.  The bag capacity of the larger units might be a consideration, but honestly, it hasn't been a problem for me.

Besides, a mini is cheaper - more money for more Festools.   It's an addiction. 

Jim


Jim,

What's a DTS55?  Do you mean the DTS 400?

Offline Corwin

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Re: Which Dust Collector? mini or 26...or other?
« Reply #49 on: September 05, 2011, 01:51 AM »
linky doesn't work.

Hm, session expired error. I really don't like the java script they use for the Ekat.

To find it you can start here.

Then go to FESTOOL USA / CAN > Dust extractor > CT mobile dust extractors.

Alex,

To post a link to the Electronic Parts Catalog (EKAT) copy, paste & edit the link in the second post in this thread:
Posting a link to the Festool E-Kat (Electronic Parts Catalog)

And here is a correct link to the CT Mini you referred to:
456784 - CT Mini 120V


You might also note that EKAT currently has two listings for the CT Mini, 456784 - CT Mini 120V
and 498236 - CT Mini USA 120V
Notice the different part number for the turbine.  At this time, I don't see anything on EKAT for a product numbered 583360.
« Last Edit: September 05, 2011, 01:59 AM by Corwin »

Offline Alex

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Re: Which Dust Collector? mini or 26...or other?
« Reply #50 on: September 05, 2011, 04:44 AM »
Corwin, thanks for the pointer, I forgot about that post.

Re: Which Dust Collector? mini or 26...or other?
« Reply #51 on: September 05, 2011, 03:06 PM »
Yea, Ken, the DTS 400.  Brain flatulence.  My mom says it gets worse with time.

Jim

Offline greenMonster

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Re: Which Dust Collector? mini or 26...or other?
« Reply #52 on: September 05, 2011, 03:37 PM »
Thanks, makes me feel a bit better  ;D

Now just to wait till Thursday  [mad]

Oh, just realized too....that the 3000mm rail probably won't fit worth a darn in my truck very well  [embarassed].


I have a mini and love it.  I have not found an application that it will not handle.  I even use it on my monster router table and it handles that very well.  In general I like the smaller Festools better.  Find myself reaching for the 1010 router more often than my 1400 or my 2200.  I don't have a TS75 saw because my 55 does everything I need.  I have both planers but I always use the smaller one.   I occasionally use the larger sanders, but because the DTS55 is so handy and controllable it gets 90 percent of my work.  The exception is my T15 drill.   I don't feel that I need anything smaller, although I have not used the smaller, new one.  

If you have a 2200 router you might want the bigger unit, but my mini seems to work fine.  The bag capacity of the larger units might be a consideration, but honestly, it hasn't been a problem for me.

Besides, a mini is cheaper - more money for more Festools.   It's an addiction.  

Jim


Are there any special general maintenance tips/products good to use on festool stuff?
Lube for the track?
Cleaner for the plastic?

Offline atomicmike

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Re: Which Dust Collector? mini or 26...or other?
« Reply #53 on: September 05, 2011, 11:26 PM »
Cleaner for the plastic?

Someone around here likes to use Armor-All.  [dead horse]  [tongue]

Offline greenMonster

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Re: Which Dust Collector? mini or 26...or other?
« Reply #54 on: September 07, 2011, 02:46 PM »
Well that was some bad communicating, stuff arrived today!

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Re: Which Dust Collector? mini or 26...or other?
« Reply #55 on: September 09, 2011, 11:55 AM »
greenMonster,


Festool should be the same price at all dealers.  Service level and knowledge will vary.

On the thread / topic question.....  You can certainly ask whatever questions in this or other existing threads, but if you  want to discuss a particular thing , I suggest a new topic be started.

Have fun with your new tools  [smile]


Seth

Offline emayf

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Re: Which Dust Collector? mini or 26...or other?
« Reply #56 on: September 09, 2011, 06:36 PM »
I have a mini and have never found it to be lacking.  It has enough capacity for me even when routing--you just have to realize that what you are giving up in capacity you are gaining with a smaller footprint and lighter weight.  The only thing I wish it had was some type of boom arm to keep the hose up where it belongs.

Offline greenMonster

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Re: Which Dust Collector? mini or 26...or other?
« Reply #57 on: September 09, 2011, 07:16 PM »
Yeah, I was wondering if I was going to miss the having the handle/boom.

I find having the systainer on top using the handle is sufficient to move it around.
I'm working on a diy boom idea.

My first idea is just to get some hose clamps and attach it to my zipwall pole. I'm thinking that it would be helpful for random things like drilling holes in walls etc....

Offline Alan m

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Re: Which Dust Collector? mini or 26...or other?
« Reply #58 on: September 09, 2011, 07:29 PM »
you can buy a hose holder for the ct22 etc. its a metal bar with a coiled up bit on the end. it drops into a hole on the top of the ct. i dont have either so i cant say if that piece would fit onto a mini or midi. im sure you could make some sort of mount to support it
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Offline Brice Burrell

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Re: Which Dust Collector? mini or 26...or other?
« Reply #59 on: September 09, 2011, 09:32 PM »
you can buy a hose holder for the ct22 etc. its a metal bar with a coiled up bit on the end. it drops into a hole on the top of the ct. i dont have either so i cant say if that piece would fit onto a mini or midi. im sure you could make some sort of mount to support it

There is no hole to mount the hose holder on the Mini and Midi vacs.  I suppose you find a way to mount if you really wanted too.  Btw, I have a few pics of the hose holder on my site.