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Offline hanshamm

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What are are the tools intended for the tool organizer?
« on: August 30, 2011, 11:29 AM »
I just received a festool tool organizer and realized some of the cutout in the wooden insert seem to be intended for specific tools (or dimensions).  Do you have a list of tools that are shown in pictures?


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Offline Ocram

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Re: What are are the tools intended for the tool organizer?
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2011, 12:39 PM »
Here is a link of what you can store in it.

sys-hdz

good luck.

Offline hanshamm

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Re: What are are the tools intended for the tool organizer?
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2011, 01:24 PM »
thanks,

I did see that pic but I really wanted to know who manufacturer some of them like:

1) saws
2) plane
3) chisels
4) hammer
5) coping saw
6) pull saw...

I'm sure just by looking at them some people must know who makes them.

thanks for the reply

Offline VictorL

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Re: What are are the tools intended for the tool organizer?
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2011, 08:05 PM »
Let me rephrase it. Do you know high quality tools (available in the USA) that will fit this box? Most screwdrivers have too long handles. Your suggestions?
Who makes best screwdrivers? Philips, torx, flat, Pozidrive etc. Any other good quality tools? Where to buy them? 

Thank you,
VictorL

Offline greenMonster

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Re: What are are the tools intended for the tool organizer?
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2011, 08:21 PM »
Have you taken a look at the Wera line?

Offline Ken Nagrod

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Re: What are are the tools intended for the tool organizer?
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2011, 09:15 PM »
Let me rephrase it. Do you know high quality tools (available in the USA) that will fit this box? Most screwdrivers have too long handles. Your suggestions?
Who makes best screwdrivers? Philips, torx, flat, Pozidrive etc. Any other good quality tools? Where to buy them? 

Thank you,
VictorL

I've had excellent results with Snap-On tools for many years.  You do have to consider that they are pricey, you will either have to buy them online off of others (new or used) on ebay or connect with your local Snap-On dealer and if there are any problems or you need to take advantage of the lifetime warranty, you have to connect with your local dealer to have things like screwdrivers changed out (the handles separate from the damaged driver part).  I've had around 25 years experience with them and the screwdrivers definitely last and hold up under tough conditions.

Offline atomicmike

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Re: What are are the tools intended for the tool organizer?
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2011, 09:52 PM »
The screwdrivers in that picture are made by Wiha (link). They're nice quality screwdrivers, made in Germany, and available many places in the US, including Amazon. Not sure about any of those other tools, though it wouldn't surprise me if more of them were also Wiha.

- Mike

Offline Tim Raleigh

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Re: What are are the tools intended for the tool organizer?
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2011, 09:58 PM »
thanks,

I did see that pic but I really wanted to know who manufacturer some of them like:
I'm sure just by looking at them some people must know who makes them.

thanks for the reply

1) saws -
2) plane - Bahco (I believe this is a rasp rather than a plane)
3) chisels - Two Cherries (German)
4) hammer - Habero (Gedore) Engineers Hammer
5) coping saw - That is an Olson pocket frame saw available at Japan woodworker etc.
6) pull saw...Bahco (Swedish)

« Last Edit: August 31, 2011, 07:58 AM by Tim Raleigh »

Offline Dan Clark

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Re: What are are the tools intended for the tool organizer?
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2011, 11:36 PM »
...
Who makes best screwdrivers? Philips, torx, flat, Pozidrive etc. Any other good quality tools? Where to buy them?  

Thank you,
VictorL
Victor,

I like Wera and Wiha screwdrivers, but I'll give an edge to the Wera line.  Wera: http://www-us.wera.de/ . Wera on Amazon: http://www.google.com/search?q=wera+screwdrivers&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&ie=&oe=#q=wera+screwdrivers&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&prmd=ivns&source=univ&tbm=shop&tbo=u&sa=X&ei=T6pdTsrnGOjniAK42NGzBQ&ved=0CGIQrQQ&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=283572669d8eb560&biw=1280&bih=655 .  Wiha on Amazon: http://www.google.com/search?q=wera+screwdrivers&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address&ie=&oe=#sclient=psy&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us%3AIE-Address&tbm=shop&source=hp&q=wiha+screwdrivers&pbx=1&oq=wiha+screwdrivers&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=3783l6005l1l7072l9l9l2l0l0l1l181l815l3.4l7l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=283572669d8eb560&biw=1280&bih=655 .  And a great site for Wiha tools: http://www.wihatools.com/ .

When you look at both and especially Wera, your first thought is, "Those handles look damnably uncomfortable!"    Then you hold one and realize that you've not paying attention to your body parts.  Cup your hand like you're holding a screwdriver and then look at the palm of your hand.  Kinda looks like a Wera handle doesn't it?

Wera and Wiha - excellent stuff.

Regards,

Dan.
« Last Edit: August 30, 2011, 11:38 PM by Dan Clark »

Offline VictorL

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Re: What are are the tools intended for the tool organizer?
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2011, 07:54 AM »
Thanks a lot for your feed back.
As I can see Wera tools are stainless steel tools. Do they temper tips, or they just leave it "as is".  Is it too soft, or just fine?
Do Snap-On tools have real life time replacement warranty? I checked their site, but did not find this information.
The selection of screwdrivers is SO huge!  [scared]

VictorL

Offline Ken Nagrod

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Re: What are are the tools intended for the tool organizer?
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2011, 08:01 AM »
Yes, all hand tools labeled Snap-On have a lifetime warranty.

Offline Hans Mertens

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Re: What are are the tools intended for the tool organizer?
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2011, 08:21 AM »
The plane on that picture is a Rali wich is a Swiss firm.

Offline BobKovacs

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Re: What are are the tools intended for the tool organizer?
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2011, 08:28 AM »
Do Snap-On tools have real life time replacement warranty? I checked their site, but did not find this information.

Back in the late 80's, we were renovating my parents' house, and when we tore open one of the walls, a ratty old screwdriver was up on a door header.   The blade was rusty and worn, and the black handle looked like it'd been used as a demolition tool- it was all torn up.   The handle had "Snap-on" carved into the side.   I had an account with the local Snap-on truck, so the next time I saw him, I brought him the screwdriver.  He looked it up in a book that he had on the truck, and said it was from the 1940's (which made sense, since that was when the house was built).   He clamped it in a vise, extracted the blade from the handle, and slid in a brand new blade.  I still have the screwdriver today, and it continues to work well.

Offline MarkusS

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Re: What are are the tools intended for the tool organizer?
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2011, 10:15 AM »
thanks,

I did see that pic but I really wanted to know who manufacturer some of them like:
I'm sure just by looking at them some people must know who makes them.

thanks for the reply

2) plane - Bahco (I believe this is a rasp rather than a plane)
3) chisels - Two Cherries (German)


The plane is made by the swiss company Samvaz - model "Rali 220", about 140 Euros. http://www.samvaz.ch/cms/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&id=38&Itemid=82&lang=en

The chisels are mady by the german Company Kirschen http://kirschen.de/

The screwdrivers are Wiha Softfinish.

The water pump pliers could be a Knipex.

This type of marking gauge is very common in Germany, if it's a qualitiy tool it's something like Ulmia or ECE.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2011, 10:19 AM by MarkusS »

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Re: What are are the tools intended for the tool organizer?
« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2011, 11:39 AM »
Not sure about in the US, but in Europe this company sell a kit that has all of the tools. It should give you a good idea of what could go in it.

http://www.mehr-als-werkzeug.de/product/718813/Systainer-mit-DICK-Werkzeugtraeger-SchreinereiInnenausbau-bestueckt-44-teilig.htm;jsessionid=47A5203D31ACDAC84DA41C2C4D73B450?lang=en

Offline Wood_Junkie

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Re: What are are the tools intended for the tool organizer?
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2011, 03:54 PM »
I got the Felo ergo set, and they sit very, very nicely in the organizer insert.

I also got some of the Wera hand drivers and can confirm they fit fine and sit flat.  I love these things and would've gone for the whole set (straight, Phillips, etc), but the Felo's above were on clearance and Rockler and were much less expensive. 

The best part about these two makers is that the bit shape and size is shown on the end of the handle, so you can see exactly what to grab from up above. I'll try to post a picture of what I keep in my tool tote, with the caveat that I have it in a Sys 5, on wheels (so carry weight is less of an issue).

Offline Tim Raleigh

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Re: What are are the tools intended for the tool organizer?
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2011, 08:48 PM »
The plane on that picture is a Rali wich is a Swiss firm.

The plane is made by the swiss company Samvaz - model "Rali 220", about 140 Euros.

Thanks Mettes and hanshamm, I really like these Rali planes, no pun intended. I think it would be a good addition to the kit.
BTW, what is the advantage of the "engineers style" for cabinet makers in Germany (Europe) over the regular claw hammer common here.
Tim

Offline MarkusS

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Re: What are are the tools intended for the tool organizer?
« Reply #17 on: September 01, 2011, 09:33 AM »
This is the most used hammer over here. Although you can buy these (english / american) claw hammers in some tool shops I never saw a craftsman using such a hammer (here in Germany).

Carpenters and roofers use usually this hammer (Latthammer) - the long claw is used to move beams


There is even a special hammer for cabinet makers (Schreinerhammer) - but this hammer isn't often used any more.



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Re: What are are the tools intended for the tool organizer?
« Reply #18 on: September 01, 2011, 09:54 AM »
Markus,

Are you sure you guys aren't just getting Darcy's defective hammer returns?  He's very rough on tools and takes advantage of those warranties.  [wink]

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Re: What are are the tools intended for the tool organizer?
« Reply #19 on: September 01, 2011, 12:57 PM »
Markus,

Are you sure you guys aren't just getting Darcy's defective hammer returns?  He's very rough on tools and takes advantage of those warranties.  [wink]

Can't be, if they were Darcy's they would be pink.