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FESTOOL DISCUSSIONS => Ask Festool => Topic started by: wikstrom on October 06, 2018, 05:28 PM

Title: SurFix question
Post by: wikstrom on October 06, 2018, 05:28 PM
I have a question about the SurFix interior oil, how does it compare to a good quality Tung Oil?
Title: Re: SurFix question
Post by: tjbnwi on October 06, 2018, 11:25 PM
I don't work for Festool.

I believe the Surfix One Step has wax in it.

I prefer the Heavy Duty. These are finished with Surfix HD. The stool has held up for 5+ years with no signs of wear. The TV stand is only a couple of weeks old.

Tom
Title: Re: SurFix question
Post by: Birdhunter on October 07, 2018, 05:20 AM
When I started building furniture, I used tung oil. It’s a sturdy finish. I didn’t like its long curing time. The long curing time exposed the surfaces to dust getting embedded in the finish.

What is the curing time for Surfix?
Title: Re: SurFix question
Post by: Gregor on October 07, 2018, 06:00 AM
Still needs time to fully cure, but as the process involves mechanically buffing in the oil (and removing any leftovers afterwards) 15 minutes after application of a layer I havn't had real problems with dust as the surface isn't that sticky when done with a round (and any dust that settled inbetween is removed by the buffing).
Title: Re: SurFix question
Post by: Cheese on October 07, 2018, 09:41 AM
I've used One-Step Oil to seal maple drawers. Using only 1 application, it soaked in to the wood and dried within 10 minutes without leaving a residue. After that I lightly rubbed it with a cotton towel.

I've also used the Outdoor Oil on outdoor teak furniture. That always gets 2 applications and can take a while to dry if the application coat is heavy.  However, like Gregor stated, because I mechanically buff that coating, any dust nibs are quickly removed.

The One-Step and Heavy Duty oils both contain wax while the Outdoor oil does not.
Title: Re: SurFix question
Post by: tjbnwi on October 07, 2018, 10:10 AM
When I started building furniture, I used tung oil. It’s a sturdy finish. I didn’t like its long curing time. The long curing time exposed the surfaces to dust getting embedded in the finish.

What is the curing time for Surfix?

The process I use is, apply oil, thin coat, buff after 15 minutes, allow to sit at least 12 hours, sand with 240 (I’ve edited this because I forgot this step, sand between coats, it gives you a better final finish, thanks to Cheese for pointing out this omission) recoat, buff after 15 minutes, put in service 12 hours later.

Do not allow the oil to sit more than 30 minutes before buffing. Thin coats work best.

I’ve also used the outdoor oil. It came in the kit. Have not replaced it as my projects are primarily interior projects.

Tom
Title: Re: SurFix question
Post by: Cheese on October 07, 2018, 10:32 AM
The process I use is, apply oil, thin coat, buff after 15 minutes, allow to sit at least 12 hours, recoat, buff after 15 minutes, put in service 12 hours later.

Tom, have you ever sanded in between coats like Festool suggests?  That was something that never made much sense to me.
Title: Re: SurFix question
Post by: Gregor on October 07, 2018, 12:16 PM
The process I use is, apply oil, thin coat, buff after 15 minutes, allow to sit at least 12 hours, recoat, buff after 15 minutes, put in service 12 hours later.

Tom, have you ever sanded in between coats like Festool suggests?  That was something that never made much sense to me.
I'm not Tom but I did - gives a smoother finish on woods that tend to erect their fibers when being initially confronted with oil.
Title: Re: SurFix question
Post by: Birdhunter on October 07, 2018, 12:24 PM
How does Surfix compare to MinWax Wipe On Poly? I’ve been using the MinWax product for furniture lately. Seems tough enough to withstand a 3 year old’s abuse.
Title: Re: SurFix question
Post by: tjbnwi on October 07, 2018, 08:24 PM
The process I use is, apply oil, thin coat, buff after 15 minutes, allow to sit at least 12 hours, recoat, buff after 15 minutes, put in service 12 hours later.

Tom, have you ever sanded in between coats like Festool suggests?  That was something that never made much sense to me.

Yes, every time. Sorry I missed that in my steps.

Old age memory.......

Tom
Title: Re: SurFix question
Post by: tjbnwi on October 07, 2018, 08:25 PM
How does Surfix compare to MinWax Wipe On Poly? I’ve been using the MinWax product for furniture lately. Seems tough enough to withstand a 3 year old’s abuse.

I beiieve the oil gives the wood more "life".

Oil is very durable and easy to repair.

Tom