However, we have no clue what deals and re-branding is done behind the scenes although occasionally this is 'discovered', in time.

You make it sound like it's a very bad thing to rebrand. Why should that be? Companies do it all the time.

You'd think that if a brand like Festool/Protool wants to rebrand a tool under it's own name there is some quality control in place. Like they have their own engineers look at the designs, material specs and mechanical properties. Like they get a bunch of those tools and put them through some rigorous testing to see if they uphold to the quality standard they want to have as a brand.

the only tools Festool offers which are not made by Festool are the Pollux 180, RAS 180 (Motor) and Rustofix RAS 180 (Motor)

Quote from: JoggleStick on June 01, 2013, 10:17 PM

However, we have no clue what deals and re-branding is done behind the scenes although occasionally this is 'discovered', in time.

You make it sound like it's a very bad thing to rebrand. Why should that be? Companies do it all the time.

You'd think that if a brand like Festool/Protool wants to rebrand a tool under it's own name there is some quality control in place. Like they have their own engineers look at the designs, material specs and mechanical properties. Like they get a bunch of those tools and put them through some rigorous testing to see if they uphold to the quality standard they want to have as a brand.

@Alex,
I'm not sure why you took a 'negative' from my post, the example I gave of the Atlas Copco Grinder and  Protool Grinder recently purchased by @Kev was, I thought and intended, a very positive one??? BUT... We all know examples of great tools being compromised when taken over by others.... Such as Elu becoming Black & Decker becoming De Walt... And even then the 'news' is not all bad.
Anyway, without splitting hairs, I tried to take a 'Neutral' position in my post so I guess it can and was read 'either way'
I hope and trust and believe Festool will 'do the right thing'...

In reality, there will most likely be positives and negatives, such is life? Particularly if the bean counters have more say than the R&D guys, don't you think?

One thing is for certain, it will all come out in the wash!

Quote from: Alex on June 02, 2013, 04:35 AM

Quote from: JoggleStick on June 01, 2013, 10:17 PM

However, we have no clue what deals and re-branding is done behind the scenes although occasionally this is 'discovered', in time.

You make it sound like it's a very bad thing to rebrand. Why should that be? Companies do it all the time.

You'd think that if a brand like Festool/Protool wants to rebrand a tool under it's own name there is some quality control in place. Like they have their own engineers look at the designs, material specs and mechanical properties. Like they get a bunch of those tools and put them through some rigorous testing to see if they uphold to the quality standard they want to have as a brand.

@Alex,
I'm not sure why you took a 'negative' from my post,

Because of the "although occasionally this is discovered, in time" remark. "Discovering something in time" generally means you want to act to avoid negative consequences.

Thanks for the clarification, but no big deal if you didn't mean it that way, we're just having a friendly chat. 

I reckon they will revamp the Cordless range...

Cordless Planer
Cordless Rotex
Cordless Domino
Cordless Kapex
Cordless TS55
Cordless Portaband...

The mind boggles...
Anyway that's my 'future view' through my 'beer goggles' : hic!

You forgot the cordless battery charger. That would be huge.

You forgot the cordless battery charger. That would be huge.

Can it charge its own batteries?

Trust me... dont worry about protool quality. the PDC is a gift from the gods. if this is happening Im really excited. Protool is such a generic name but Festool is history and strong branding.