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Offline Alex

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Re: Protool to be absorbed by Festool?
« Reply #150 on: June 02, 2013, 04:35 AM »
However, we have no clue what deals and re-branding is done behind the scenes although occasionally this is 'discovered', in time.

You make it sound like it's a very bad thing to rebrand. Why should that be? Companies do it all the time.

You'd think that if a brand like Festool/Protool wants to rebrand a tool under it's own name there is some quality control in place. Like they have their own engineers look at the designs, material specs and mechanical properties. Like they get a bunch of those tools and put them through some rigorous testing to see if they uphold to the quality standard they want to have as a brand.


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Offline Deansocial

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Re: Protool to be absorbed by Festool?
« Reply #151 on: June 02, 2013, 04:53 AM »
I remeber buying a plunge saw when all the large circular saws sold now under the protool name were branded festool. They are only going back to what it was before

Offline Holz-Her

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Re: Protool to be absorbed by Festool?
« Reply #152 on: June 02, 2013, 03:03 PM »
the only tools Festool offers which are not made by Festool are the Pollux 180, RAS 180 (Motor) and Rustofix RAS 180 (Motor)

Offline ccarrolladams

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Re: Protool to be absorbed by Festool?
« Reply #153 on: June 02, 2013, 07:40 PM »
the only tools Festool offers which are not made by Festool are the Pollux 180, RAS 180 (Motor) and Rustofix RAS 180 (Motor)

What a fascinating post.

Your answer indicates you have inside information about TTS and Festool.

Could you explain the source of this inside information? Are you authorized by TTS to release this information to the public and customers?

Offline JoggleStick

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Re: Protool to be absorbed by Festool?
« Reply #154 on: June 03, 2013, 03:51 AM »
However, we have no clue what deals and re-branding is done behind the scenes although occasionally this is 'discovered', in time.

You make it sound like it's a very bad thing to rebrand. Why should that be? Companies do it all the time.

You'd think that if a brand like Festool/Protool wants to rebrand a tool under it's own name there is some quality control in place. Like they have their own engineers look at the designs, material specs and mechanical properties. Like they get a bunch of those tools and put them through some rigorous testing to see if they uphold to the quality standard they want to have as a brand.

@Alex,
I'm not sure why you took a 'negative' from my post, the example I gave of the Atlas Copco Grinder and  Protool Grinder recently purchased by @Kev was, I thought and intended, a very positive one??? BUT... We all know examples of great tools being compromised when taken over by others.... Such as Elu becoming Black & Decker becoming De Walt... And even then the 'news' is not all bad.
Anyway, without splitting hairs, I tried to take a 'Neutral' position in my post so I guess it can and was read 'either way'
I hope and trust and believe Festool will 'do the right thing'...

In reality, there will most likely be positives and negatives, such is life? Particularly if the bean counters have more say than the R&D guys, don't you think?

One thing is for certain, it will all come out in the wash!
It's all in the fits!

Offline Holz-Her

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Re: Protool to be absorbed by Festool?
« Reply #155 on: June 03, 2013, 04:36 AM »
the only tools Festool offers which are not made by Festool are the Pollux 180, RAS 180 (Motor) and Rustofix RAS 180 (Motor)

What a fascinating post.

Your answer indicates you have inside information about TTS and Festool.

Could you explain the source of this inside information? Are you authorized by TTS to release this information to the public and customers?
No, i donĀ“t.... but i know these motors are supplied by Flex from Germany.... no secret...

Offline Alex

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Re: Protool to be absorbed by Festool?
« Reply #156 on: June 03, 2013, 05:00 AM »
However, we have no clue what deals and re-branding is done behind the scenes although occasionally this is 'discovered', in time.

You make it sound like it's a very bad thing to rebrand. Why should that be? Companies do it all the time.

You'd think that if a brand like Festool/Protool wants to rebrand a tool under it's own name there is some quality control in place. Like they have their own engineers look at the designs, material specs and mechanical properties. Like they get a bunch of those tools and put them through some rigorous testing to see if they uphold to the quality standard they want to have as a brand.

@Alex,
I'm not sure why you took a 'negative' from my post,

Because of the "although occasionally this is discovered, in time" remark. "Discovering something in time" generally means you want to act to avoid negative consequences.

Thanks for the clarification, but no big deal if you didn't mean it that way, we're just having a friendly chat.  [smile]

Offline JoggleStick

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Re: Protool to be absorbed by Festool?
« Reply #157 on: June 03, 2013, 05:07 AM »
Yep... +1 beer and yeah a schnapps chaser to boot....
It's all in the fits!

Offline fritter63

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Re: Protool to be absorbed by Festool?
« Reply #158 on: June 08, 2013, 07:47 PM »
I reckon they will revamp the Cordless range...

Cordless Planer
Cordless Rotex
Cordless Domino
Cordless Kapex
Cordless TS55
Cordless Portaband...

The mind boggles...
Anyway that's my 'future view' through my 'beer goggles' : hic!

You forgot the cordless battery charger. That would be huge.

Offline JoggleStick

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Re: Protool to be absorbed by Festool?
« Reply #159 on: June 09, 2013, 02:59 AM »
Ha Ha... That would be a solar charger.... : deal
It's all in the fits!

Offline fdengel

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Re: Protool to be absorbed by Festool?
« Reply #160 on: June 11, 2013, 03:01 PM »
You forgot the cordless battery charger. That would be huge.

Can it charge its own batteries?

Offline Starfl0

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Re: Protool to be absorbed by Festool?
« Reply #161 on: June 14, 2013, 06:32 AM »
Hilti just released a cordless vacuum (20 and 40 liters)... so everything is possible  ;D
Come from France, sorry for my English...
Begin with the TS55 like almost everyone, now i can't stop !

Offline Etanrok

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Re: Protool to be absorbed by Festool?
« Reply #162 on: June 22, 2013, 05:04 PM »
Trust me... dont worry about protool quality. the PDC is a gift from the gods. if this is happening Im really excited. Protool is such a generic name but Festool is history and strong branding.
My addiction as a Plumber:
PDC 18-4 4.2
T15+3 Li 3.0 & Carvex 420 PSC in Sys 3 combo TL DF
Cleantex CTL mini
Syslite
Dsc AG 230 + fs 800/2
Protool angle grinder + DSG AG 125 in Sys 2 TL DF
Hilti TE7-c Rotary Hammer Drill
Hilti TE70 Combihammer
Hilti PMC 46 Laser kit
3x SYS 1 TL (self feeds, accessories and Fein multimaster)
1x SYS 2 TL (panasonic 14.4v drill + impact driver)
1x SYS 3 TL (Milwaukee M12) set of 5 tools)
1x SYS 4 TL (Hitatchi Circular saw):
Previous Festool drills: CDD 12(2006-2007) C12 EC (2007-2010) t 18 (2011-13)