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Offline P2P

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Horrible Site Lag
« on: August 26, 2023, 07:02 PM »
Festool USA or admins,

Any reason behind the site lag?  It has been awful for more than a couple of weeks now.  Some days I just give up.  I can't be the only one?

This is only going to lead to more people giving up, which will lead to the loss of a valuable resource.

Hopeful that this has been noticed and is being addressed by the FOG lead team?

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Offline Shavings

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Re: Horrible Site Lag
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2023, 07:49 PM »
It is very excessive.   [scared]

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Horrible Site Lag
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2023, 08:27 PM »
When all the posts from four days fit on one page…it’s bad.

Offline Woodbeam

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Re: Horrible Site Lag
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2023, 08:42 PM »
Very bad lag indeed...

Offline MikeGE

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Re: Horrible Site Lag
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2023, 10:02 PM »
The delay for any action on the FOG is between 45 seconds and infinity (I give up and go to another site) for me.  @Peter Halle reported the problem to the site owners, but I don't think there is much more he can do.  See this thread:

https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/feedback-on-administration/lagging-again/msg699400/


Online Cheese

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Re: Horrible Site Lag
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2023, 10:21 PM »
Hmmm, I wonder if this is a German problem or if it's an American issue?

If it's a German issue, I just may grow extra fingers before it's resolved.

If it's an American issue, I may become president before it's resolved.

Either way, the opportunities for me are vast.  [big grin]

Offline luvmytoolz

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Re: Horrible Site Lag
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2023, 12:05 AM »
I just did a lookup and it's an Amazon AWS IP in the US.

Must say for a website owned by a global corporation the size of Festool this is exceedingly poor IT management.

Doesn't reflect very well on management in my opinion.

Offline Peter Halle

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Re: Horrible Site Lag
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2023, 04:57 AM »

Online ChuckS

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Re: Horrible Site Lag
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2023, 05:48 AM »
When all the posts from four days fit on one page…it’s bad.
This thread has had several hundred views but just a few posts, a phenomenon common to a few other sites I visit from time to time. Some threads may carry even a coupe of thousand views, but still, the actual number of exchanges in them is embarrassingly small. I suppose that's the kind of future for many forums.

But the recent IT issues in this forum haven't helped.

Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: Horrible Site Lag
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2023, 12:46 PM »
When it's this slow, no one wants to bother commenting  [unsure]
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Online ChuckS

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Re: Horrible Site Lag
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2023, 01:06 PM »
... or visiting.

Offline Muttley000

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Re: Horrible Site Lag
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2023, 01:08 PM »
When it's this slow, no one wants to bother commenting  [unsure]
This!  For the less prolific poster like myself I just steer away from the site knowing I’m not going to get too far behind
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Offline MattFestool

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Re: Horrible Site Lag
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2023, 09:20 AM »
Hey everyone - was just looped into the slowness!  Looking into it now.

Thanks,

Matt

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Re: Horrible Site Lag
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2023, 09:58 AM »
@P2P and everyone else

Services were going crazy on the back end.  Restarted a few things and seems the site is back to normal.  @ me if you see them return.

Thanks,

Matt

Online squall_line

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Re: Horrible Site Lag
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2023, 10:11 AM »
@P2P and everyone else

Services were going crazy on the back end.  Restarted a few things and seems the site is back to normal.  @ me if you see them return.

Thanks,

Matt

@MattFestool - The site was great for about 5 or 10 minutes this morning, apparently right arounf the time that you restarted things.  It's back to abysmal as of this posting, 0911 CDT on 28-AUG-2023.

Offline MattFestool

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Re: Horrible Site Lag
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2023, 10:16 AM »
@P2P and everyone else

Services were going crazy on the back end.  Restarted a few things and seems the site is back to normal.  @ me if you see them return.

Thanks,

Matt

@MattFestool - The site was great for about 5 or 10 minutes this morning, apparently right arounf the time that you restarted things.  It's back to abysmal as of this posting, 0911 CDT on 28-AUG-2023.

I see it - looking again

Online Cheese

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Re: Horrible Site Lag
« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2023, 10:27 AM »
I see it - looking again

Matt, it has its moments...hour after hour of delays and then suddenly it gets back to normal for maybe 10 minutes or less and then it returns to its sluggish behavior. It's even been that way at 1:00 AM CST. It's been like this for the last week.

Offline rvieceli

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Re: Horrible Site Lag
« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2023, 11:06 AM »
@MattFestool 10:05 CDT and it's still slooooow!

Ron


Online Cheese

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Re: Horrible Site Lag
« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2023, 02:03 PM »
FWIW... @MattFestool ... Michael Kellough tagged me at 12:25 but I didn't receive the notice until 12:52. Now that's unusual.  [jawdrop]

Offline MattFestool

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Re: Horrible Site Lag
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2023, 02:11 PM »
Thanks - appreciate the feedback @Cheese  and Ron

We're still monitoring a few things, and prepping to do some snapshots and updates here in the next little bit.  Might have to lock the forums for a bit so there's no data loss, but hopefully we'll get things working better here shortly!

Matt

Offline MattFestool

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Re: Horrible Site Lag
« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2023, 03:35 PM »
Alright - ran some updates, cleaned up a few things and we're back now.  We'll continue to monitor, but let us know if you see the slowness come back.

Thanks,

Matt

Offline waho6o9

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Re: Horrible Site Lag
« Reply #21 on: August 28, 2023, 04:34 PM »
Thanks Matt

Offline rvieceli

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Re: Horrible Site Lag
« Reply #22 on: August 28, 2023, 04:44 PM »
Seems kind of normal now. 3:43 CDT
thanks

RON

Offline rvieceli

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Re: Horrible Site Lag
« Reply #23 on: August 28, 2023, 05:42 PM »
@MattFestool back to slooooow again. 4:40pm CDT

Ron

Offline Crazyraceguy

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Re: Horrible Site Lag
« Reply #24 on: August 28, 2023, 05:51 PM »
Not as slow as it has been, but not normal either
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Offline MikeGE

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Re: Horrible Site Lag
« Reply #25 on: August 28, 2023, 06:08 PM »
Still slow for me.

Edit: The time lag between mouse click and action is about 30 seconds.

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Horrible Site Lag
« Reply #26 on: August 28, 2023, 07:06 PM »
@MattFestool   Goto a post 16sec.>read the post 15 sec.>goto logon screen 15 sec.> enter info 2sec.>internal logon process 45 sec.>go back to original thread 16 sec.>click reply button 1 sec.>type reply varies>post reply 25 sec.

Altogether over two minutes to read the shortest message and post a minimal response. About ten times longer than normal.
« Last Edit: August 28, 2023, 07:09 PM by Michael Kellough »

Offline PaulMarcel

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Re: Horrible Site Lag
« Reply #27 on: August 28, 2023, 09:06 PM »
@MattFestool I'm curious if you got a database upgrade. Nothing with your codebase, but the actual backend database. A couple weeks ago, we had a similar thing with our tracker devices (though we aren't on AWS for this project, but applies). We had the database upgraded to a newer major version and suddenly, things would work well at first and consistently get slower and slower. It still worked, but was 🐶🍑 slow.

It turned out the connection pool handling had changed and our software wasn't handling the connections correctly for the new requirements. So if you can use the AWS dashboard to look at the database connections and see if they are growing over time after a service restart, it may be similar. The hack work-around was to set the idle time before close of the connection pretty low.
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Offline MikeGE

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Re: Horrible Site Lag
« Reply #28 on: August 29, 2023, 08:34 AM »
Fingers crossed, but the site access speed appears to be normal again.

Offline rmhinden

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Re: Horrible Site Lag
« Reply #29 on: August 29, 2023, 08:57 AM »
Working for me too!

Bob