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Offline glass1

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Hk85
« on: July 17, 2018, 05:28 PM »
When we getting 120 volt USA version

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Offline rst

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Re: Hk85
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2018, 07:14 PM »
I'm with you.

Offline FstoolNewbie24

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Re: Hk85
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2018, 09:52 PM »
Ditto, I’d even be good with a 220v version. Can EURO saws have the plug replaced with a 220 one to be used here in the US?

Offline jimbo51

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Re: Hk85
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2018, 11:46 PM »
85 mm cut will not go through a nominal 4x timber in one pass. What would be the advantage of the 85 over the 75 that it would sell enough to make it worthwhile for Festool to launch in the US?

Offline Frank-Jan

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Re: Hk85
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2018, 02:56 AM »
...What would be the advantage of the 85 over the 75 that it would sell enough to make it worthwhile for Festool to launch in the US?

The Hk85 is not just a plungesaw like the ts75, so it can also be used safely to cut lumber off track, it can use the FSK rails, it can bevel up to 60°, it can be used with a groove cutter set, it's less expensive than the mafell alternative. (at least here)

Offline glass1

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Re: Hk85
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2018, 06:14 AM »
If it had no advantages or differences with the 75 why did festool develop it?  Advantages to me are, capacity, FSk rail, power, 60 degree, easy of use off rail, grooving, etc...
For you maybe this is not important uses ?

Offline jimbo51

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Re: Hk85
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2018, 07:31 AM »
Advantages to me are, capacity, FSk rail, power, 60 degree, easy of use off rail, grooving, etc...

These are good points that I had forgotten due to lack of HK85 availability in the US. However, I do not see an HK85 in the US having much more power due to voltage situation. I do not believe that Festool will ever launch 220 volt hand tools in the US.

In regard to capacity, I think I am reacting to the HK55 2x4 45 degree controversy. The inability to cut 4x lumber in a single pass seems like a serious limitation in general use. An HK88-90 would be more useful, but unlikely to be introduced unless there is already some spare room for a larger diameter blade.

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Re: Hk85
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2018, 08:36 AM »
There are not currently plans to bring the HK 85 to North America.

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Online Mario Turcot

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Re: Hk85
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2018, 10:06 AM »
Ditto, I’d even be good with a 220v version. Can EURO saws have the plug replaced with a 220 one to be used here in the US?

NA 220v consist of two hot wires delivering each 110v. From what i understand European wiring consist of one hot wire delivering 220v and a neutral... if this is the case you will need a converter.
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Offline dallas8338

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Re: Hk85
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2018, 05:45 PM »
Ditto, I’d even be good with a 220v version. Can EURO saws have the plug replaced with a 220 one to be used here in the US?

NA 220v consist of two hot wires delivering each 110v. From what i understand European wiring consist of one hot wire delivering 220v and a neutral... if this is the case you will need a converter.

Since it's single phase and 180 degrees out, you'd still end up with the same 220 volts (you just wouldn't reference neutral- same as a 3 plug dryer cord vs a 4 plug).  The only real issue is the hertz- 50 vs 60.  Most universal motors can handle the difference just fine, but since Festool puts electronics in their tools to regulate speed and such, things might not work out.

Offline glass1

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Re: Hk85
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2018, 06:08 AM »
Anybody using this saw in USA? Hooked up120 volt with a inverter  or do you use 240? Thx

Offline demographic

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Re: Hk85
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2018, 06:31 AM »
If I had bought my HKC first I doubt I would have even bothered getting a TS55, that crosscut rail increases its versatility by a massive amount.
If you half the voltage the amps double with the same wattage output so it would need to be on a 32 amp plug.
I don't know about in the US but its very rare for a manufacturer to produce a 110 tool that requires a 32 amp socket.
I reckon you have more chance of seeing a cordless version than that.

Offline Svar

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Re: Hk85
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2018, 10:16 AM »
I don't know about in the US but its very rare for a manufacturer to produce a 110 tool that requires a 32 amp socket.
True. However, concerning saws of this size. Makita and Mafell both have 9, 10, and even 16" circular saws for US market (120V). Bosch also had 110v 9" saw.

Offline DeformedTree

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Re: Hk85
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2018, 12:43 PM »
Ditto, I’d even be good with a 220v version. Can EURO saws have the plug replaced with a 220 one to be used here in the US?

NA 220v consist of two hot wires delivering each 110v. From what i understand European wiring consist of one hot wire delivering 220v and a neutral... if this is the case you will need a converter.

Since it's single phase and 180 degrees out, you'd still end up with the same 220 volts (you just wouldn't reference neutral- same as a 3 plug dryer cord vs a 4 plug).  The only real issue is the hertz- 50 vs 60.  Most universal motors can handle the difference just fine, but since Festool puts electronics in their tools to regulate speed and such, things might not work out.

There was just a Thread on this by a different user who imported a tool.  The tool was shown in the thread that proceed it to be a 220-240V. 50/60hz. tool.   As would be expected by pretty much anything made anymore.

Obviously Festool isn't going to say "go for it",  but far as the tool and wiring, yes, you can run a EU 220V Festool Tool in the US.

I think the HK85 is intended as a job site tool, so being 220V can become an issue as finding a 220 plug around could be hard unless you are running off a generator, then it could actually be very easy.