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Offline surfmirrors

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Re: festool trion jigsaw
« Reply #30 on: February 08, 2010, 07:06 PM »
Hi Shane,

I got a reply on here saying maybe they will send someone over,.
broke about 20 blades now...
surfmirrors, like waves on the sea, no two are the same.

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Offline Chas

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Re: festool trion jigsaw
« Reply #31 on: February 17, 2010, 11:05 PM »
Those blades (High Carbon Steel) are going to heat up and weaken, get brittle and break. Those types of blades are cheap and designed for occasional use. Try a bi-metal blade. You might get a bit of burning but it will last a lot longer. You could cut a car in half with a bi-metal blade.  They do tend to be flexible so you can't force them like a hardened steel blade though. You may need to make relief cuts.

I'd be tempted to try these

SSBB-BMS-410

from this catalog.

http://www.icscuttingtools.com/catalog/page_323.pdf

Not sure if it will fit though. The BOSH fans can confirm. I only do copes with my trion and use whatever is lying around.
« Last Edit: February 17, 2010, 11:16 PM by Chas »

Offline surfmirrors

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Re: festool trion jigsaw
« Reply #32 on: February 19, 2010, 04:53 AM »
I got a call from a Festool rep yesterday, may meet later today if our schedules allow....
Chas, not sure if the Festool recommended blades are "cheap" as you mention, i dont think any Festool products are cheap !!! I need the narrow blades and a clean cut, so will see what shape the bi-metal blades come in.
I will let you all know the results after i rip down some 18mm with the rep.

Cheers
surfmirrors, like waves on the sea, no two are the same.

Offline surfmirrors

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Re: festool trion jigsaw
« Reply #33 on: February 20, 2010, 04:31 AM »
Hi guys,

Festool sent the rep down yesterday.
We discussed what i was doing etc, and tried some other blades on 18mm ply.
There is no alternative blade from what i am using for tight radius work, but i can use another blade for 80% of what i am doing.
The quick blade change facility makes this easy enough.

3 of us discussed all aspects of what i am doing, and it wasn't until now that i realized the blades were breaking on a straight cut, and very early too.
It's bloody freezing in my converted pigsty, and i think that as the blades are very cold and then heat up very quickly when used the breakages may be a result of
acute temperature change too ??

I will try a bimetal blade soon and see what happens....
surfmirrors, like waves on the sea, no two are the same.

Offline Deansocial

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Re: festool trion jigsaw
« Reply #34 on: March 18, 2010, 06:06 PM »
try these http://www.powertooldirect.co.uk/lenox_cf320sc_jigsaw_blades_5pk_cf320sc_75mm_20t-p-77188.html

i find lenox far better blades than bosch or festool, in fact the festool blades i used where piss poor in my opinion

Offline Forrest Anderson

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Re: festool trion jigsaw
« Reply #35 on: March 18, 2010, 06:09 PM »
in fact the festool blades i used where piss poor in my opinion

Please elaborate. Which blades did you try? Did they break? Did they get blunt quickly...?

Forrest


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Offline Deansocial

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Re: festool trion jigsaw
« Reply #36 on: March 18, 2010, 06:18 PM »
cant remeber which blades as it has been about 3 years since i used one. I found them slower cutting and not as good a finish as the lennox blades for the price.

Offline Forrest Anderson

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Re: festool trion jigsaw
« Reply #37 on: March 18, 2010, 06:31 PM »
cant remeber which blades as it has been about 3 years since i used one. I found them slower cutting and not as good a finish as the lennox blades for the price.

Thanks for the clarification.

Forrest

Compiler of the Consolidated List of Festool Links - the place to go for Festool reviews, manuals, brochures and videos!

Offline surfmirrors

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Re: festool trion jigsaw
« Reply #38 on: March 21, 2010, 02:48 AM »
Hi Deansocial,

I will try a lenox blade when i next purchase then..
surfmirrors, like waves on the sea, no two are the same.

Offline Deansocial

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Re: festool trion jigsaw
« Reply #39 on: March 21, 2010, 03:06 AM »
This place is dirt cheap for jigsaw blades for the sraight cuts, he is out of stock for a few weeks but they are something like ?17 for 50 blades and altho no as good as some more expensive blades they are for the price.http://kitchenfitterstools.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=2 
« Last Edit: March 21, 2010, 03:12 PM by Deansocial »

Offline jacko9

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Re: festool trion jigsaw
« Reply #40 on: May 08, 2010, 09:56 PM »
Hi guys,

Festool sent the rep down yesterday.
We discussed what i was doing etc, and tried some other blades on 18mm ply.
There is no alternative blade from what i am using for tight radius work, but i can use another blade for 80% of what i am doing.
The quick blade change facility makes this easy enough.

3 of us discussed all aspects of what i am doing, and it wasn't until now that i realized the blades were breaking on a straight cut, and very early too.
It's bloody freezing in my converted pigsty, and i think that as the blades are very cold and then heat up very quickly when used the breakages may be a result of
acute temperature change too ??

I will try a bimetal blade soon and see what happens....


Surfmirrors, what did the Festool reps have to say about your broken blades?  I have a very hard time believing that a temperature differential or temperature shock is the cause of your breakage.  Did they give you any specific recommendations?

Offline surfmirrors

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Re: festool trion jigsaw
« Reply #41 on: September 12, 2010, 01:22 AM »
hello one and all,

haven't been on here much, been busy workwise, and a new baby !
anyway, re blade breakage with my jigsaw, thru' the summer i have broke less blades than thru' the winter thats for sure.
same materials, same blade model number, but my local toolstore hasn't has festool blades in for 6 months or more (he still owes me a pack)
so i purchased dewalt blades.
breaking about 1 a week at the mo, so will be keen to see how many thru the winter also....
surfmirrors, like waves on the sea, no two are the same.

Offline Michael_MA

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Re: festool trion jigsaw
« Reply #42 on: September 12, 2010, 03:46 AM »
hello one and all,

haven't been on here much, been busy workwise, and a new baby !
anyway, re blade breakage with my jigsaw, thru' the summer i have broke less blades than thru' the winter thats for sure.
same materials, same blade model number, but my local toolstore hasn't has festool blades in for 6 months or more (he still owes me a pack)
so i purchased dewalt blades.
breaking about 1 a week at the mo, so will be keen to see how many thru the winter also....

I know the saw blade very well, as i used it in some tests I did with the PS300 and PS400 saws..
all i can say here is, the saw blade is very.. very.. sensitive to torque momentum outside the saw axis.. that means turning it to quickly or not holding it very steady could just break it.. (broke 3 so far during my tests.. )

But you can significantly improve cut quality and livetime of the saw blade by using the splinter guard, as it relieves the strain from the sawblade.. I know, you had problems to see the saw line with the splinter guard.. (One of the the reasons I'm not owning the Trion anymore..) but if you move very nice and slow, you can see fairly well on the little notch at the front of the splinter guard..
AND
------> Make sure, you always protrude the material with the saw blade in any position of the saw (up or down..)

hth, Mike
Glad to be back - pleasure to see familliar names..

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