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Offline GoingMyWay

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Re: Festool Recon Topic (compiled)
« Reply #600 on: July 15, 2021, 10:00 AM »
LS 130 EQ Linear Detail Sander just posted.
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Offline GoingMyWay

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Re: Festool Recon Topic (compiled)
« Reply #601 on: July 15, 2021, 10:01 AM »
Cordless Track Saw TSC 55 Li REB-F-Basic just posted.
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Re: Festool Recon Topic (compiled)
« Reply #602 on: July 15, 2021, 12:12 PM »
Dust Extractor CT MIDI I HEPA just posted.
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Re: Festool Recon Topic (compiled)
« Reply #603 on: July 15, 2021, 12:14 PM »
Impact Driver and Percussion Drill Set TID18 HPC 4,0 I-Set PDC18 just posted.
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Re: Festool Recon Topic (compiled)
« Reply #604 on: July 15, 2021, 12:15 PM »
Dust Extractor CT MIDI I HEPA just posted.
And I snagged it. With taxes, $126 off new. That's pretty decent.

Offline GoingMyWay

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Re: Festool Recon Topic (compiled)
« Reply #605 on: July 15, 2021, 12:27 PM »
Jigsaw CARVEX PSB 420 EBQ-Plus just posted.
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Re: Festool Recon Topic (compiled)
« Reply #606 on: July 15, 2021, 07:09 PM »
Cordless Screw Gun DURADRIVE DWC 18-4500 Li 3,1-Compact is up.
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Offline squall_line

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Re: Festool Recon Topic (compiled)
« Reply #607 on: July 15, 2021, 11:12 PM »
Planer HL 850 E-F-Plus is currently up; the sale has been going most of the day slowly but steadily.

Next up is the T-18 Easy Set with the fixed chuck, which is a good way to get more batteries if you just need batteries and have confidence you can sell the drill and systainer.

Offline sg1011

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Re: Festool Recon Topic (compiled)
« Reply #608 on: July 15, 2021, 11:19 PM »
Does the site just upload one item at a time?

Offline squall_line

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Re: Festool Recon Topic (compiled)
« Reply #609 on: July 15, 2021, 11:36 PM »
Does the site just upload one item at a time?

The site works a lot like woot! used to work back in the pre-Amazon days.  One tool SKU is listed at a time, and the site moves to the next item (or closes the entire sale) once that SKU has sold through.

There are no indications of what quantity of each SKU is up for sale.  Sometimes there is more than one of a given SKU for sale so the item may remain listed even after someone purchases it.  Many times, only one quantity of a given SKU is available and the site moves to the next item as soon as the single quantity is sold.

The site has a pre-loaded queue that can be viewed at https://www.festoolrecon.com/collections/oneanddone .  All of the links will redirect to the first item in the queue, except for special events such as the 4th of July Sell-off and an occasional Black Friday Sell-off.

No matter the length of the queue, when the "Wow, that was fast!!!" item comes up, that's the end of the queue.  Sometimes that's in the middle of a long list of items, but usually it's the last one in the queue.

Many items are listed at 25% off of retail, with free shipping.  Occasionally an item will be listed at 20% off, sometimes even at 30% or 50% off, depending on the item.  There does not seem to be any direct correlation between the percentage off and the quality of the item, it may be related to the popularity of the item or the lack thereof (Planex sanders, for example, seem to get the highest percentage and tend to sit unsold for a long time).

This is all information that has been gleaned and gathered from observation over time.  I don't believe anyone at Festool has officially confirmed any of this, other than perhaps the whole "all links lead to the first item in the queue" redirects.

In "the before times", Recon items were actually sold through dealers.  I wasn't around then, but from everything I've read, it was a very dark and ugly time indeed.

The rules of the website are subject to change at any time (see also: the 4th of July Sell-off).  Festool could decide to discontinue the sale at any time as well.

Hope this helps!

Offline sg1011

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Re: Festool Recon Topic (compiled)
« Reply #610 on: July 15, 2021, 11:42 PM »
Does the site just upload one item at a time?

The site works a lot like woot! used to work back in the pre-Amazon days.  One tool SKU is listed at a time, and the site moves to the next item (or closes the entire sale) once that SKU has sold through.

There are no indications of what quantity of each SKU is up for sale.  Sometimes there is more than one of a given SKU for sale so the item may remain listed even after someone purchases it.  Many times, only one quantity of a given SKU is available and the site moves to the next item as soon as the single quantity is sold.

The site has a pre-loaded queue that can be viewed at https://www.festoolrecon.com/collections/oneanddone .  All of the links will redirect to the first item in the queue, except for special events such as the 4th of July Sell-off and an occasional Black Friday Sell-off.

No matter the length of the queue, when the "Wow, that was fast!!!" item comes up, that's the end of the queue.  Sometimes that's in the middle of a long list of items, but usually it's the last one in the queue.

Many items are listed at 25% off of retail, with free shipping.  Occasionally an item will be listed at 20% off, sometimes even at 30% or 50% off, depending on the item.  There does not seem to be any direct correlation between the percentage off and the quality of the item, it may be related to the popularity of the item or the lack thereof (Planex sanders, for example, seem to get the highest percentage and tend to sit unsold for a long time).

This is all information that has been gleaned and gathered from observation over time.  I don't believe anyone at Festool has officially confirmed any of this, other than perhaps the whole "all links lead to the first item in the queue" redirects.

In "the before times", Recon items were actually sold through dealers.  I wasn't around then, but from everything I've read, it was a very dark and ugly time indeed.

The rules of the website are subject to change at any time (see also: the 4th of July Sell-off).  Festool could decide to discontinue the sale at any time as well.

Hope this helps!

Wow. Thanks for all the Info!  It definitely helps out a lot. I just recently came back to Festool and the way that the reconditioned tools were available 10-15 years ago was completely different.

Offline squall_line

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Re: Festool Recon Topic (compiled)
« Reply #611 on: July 16, 2021, 12:49 AM »
Cordless Drill T 18+3-E HPC 4,0 I-Plus is up.

Good night, and good luck
« Last Edit: July 16, 2021, 12:52 AM by squall_line »

Offline Christopher Fitch

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Re: Festool Recon Topic (compiled)
« Reply #612 on: July 16, 2021, 02:07 AM »
Now it's Jigsaw CARVEX PSB 420 EBQ-Plus

and after that are two more Carvex's
Cordless Jigsaw CARVEX PSC 420 HPC 4,0 EBI-Plus
Jigsaw CARVEX PS 420 EBQ-Plus

Offline squall_line

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Re: Festool Recon Topic (compiled)
« Reply #613 on: July 16, 2021, 07:20 AM »
Jigsaw CARVEX PS 420 EBQ-Plus is up.

It's the only SKU currently up (0620 CDT).

Everything else either sold through overnight or something timed out with the listings.

It's anyone's guess if any other items post today.

TGIF!

Offline GoingMyWay

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Re: Festool Recon Topic (compiled)
« Reply #614 on: July 19, 2021, 07:42 AM »
RO 125 FEQ Plus Rotex Sander is up.
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Re: Festool Recon Topic (compiled)
« Reply #615 on: July 19, 2021, 07:49 AM »
Cordless Screw Gun DURADRIVE DWC 18-4500 Li 3,1-Compact just posted.
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Offline brbeard

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Re: Festool Recon Topic (compiled)
« Reply #616 on: July 19, 2021, 02:11 PM »
Just a heads up for anyone looking to purchase a 1400 router soon. I purchased what was described as the imperial version of the router through Recon and received it last week. What I received was a very worn metric version that was manufactured in 2010. It was also just loose in the systainer banging around with all of the parts when I opened it. I was fortunate that the description was wrong, as they allowed me to return it. If a metric version pops up on the recon site soon though, it'll likely be this one. And, again...it was very worn and 11 years old. It wasn't a deal at only 25% off in that condition. I'd recommend staying away from any metric 1400s over the next couple of weeks.

Offline squall_line

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Re: Festool Recon Topic (compiled)
« Reply #617 on: July 19, 2021, 03:15 PM »
What I received was a very worn metric version that was manufactured in 2010.

Definitely an unfortunate experience.

My understanding of the Recon is that the tools are "reconditioned".  Sometimes, this means a tool that was tried out and returned during the 30-day trial period, which may be used or may appear brand new.  Other times, this may mean a tool that was sent in for repair during the 3-year warranty and potentially deemed "not fiscally advantageous to repair" and subsequently replaced by FUSA.  Also possible are tools sent in for repair and then either abandoned by the owner or the owner deemed the repair cost not financially feasible and decided to get a new tool instead.

The first scenario (especially if the tool is lightly or never used) are the "dream" scenario for a hobbyist, in my estimation.  A good tool, brand new condition, and at a discounted price.  From FUSA's standpoint, the lost retail sale price is made up for by a smaller balance on the actuarial balance sheet for warranty repairs after Year 1.

It's the two latter scenarios that are the worrisome scenarios for sight-unseen buyers.  Something like a 10-year-old router being sold above its 10-year-old retail price, without any prior notice that it was that old?  The 1-year warranty may not be worth the price difference between that item and the one that you might stumble across on eBay, Facebook, Craigslist, Offerup, etc.

Toyota-esque resale prices notwithstanding (depending on the tool), it's probably not what people are thinking of or looking for when purchasing direct from the manufacturer on a "factory reconditioned" tool.

The packing quality (or lack thereof) certainly doesn't help matters.  That's another place where some of our online retailers tend to shine: the extra care they take to add internal packing to the systainer to ensure a tool arrives in good shape.

I get the feeling that there are some pros who buy from Recon, possibly to supplement their stock, but I have a feeling that if I ever make the turn from "hobbyist" to "making a living with my tools", my cost-benefit will likely drive me to retail purchases for the extra warranty (and because I can depreciate a small percentage of the cost over time).

Offline slavi.yordanov

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Re: Festool Recon Topic (compiled)
« Reply #618 on: July 19, 2021, 03:26 PM »
What I received was a very worn metric version that was manufactured in 2010.

Definitely an unfortunate experience.

My understanding of the Recon is that the tools are "reconditioned".  Sometimes, this means a tool that was tried out and returned during the 30-day trial period, which may be used or may appear brand new.  Other times, this may mean a tool that was sent in for repair during the 3-year warranty and potentially deemed "not fiscally advantageous to repair" and subsequently replaced by FUSA.  Also possible are tools sent in for repair and then either abandoned by the owner or the owner deemed the repair cost not financially feasible and decided to get a new tool instead.

The first scenario (especially if the tool is lightly or never used) are the "dream" scenario for a hobbyist, in my estimation.  A good tool, brand new condition, and at a discounted price.  From FUSA's standpoint, the lost retail sale price is made up for by a smaller balance on the actuarial balance sheet for warranty repairs after Year 1.

It's the two latter scenarios that are the worrisome scenarios for sight-unseen buyers.  Something like a 10-year-old router being sold above its 10-year-old retail price, without any prior notice that it was that old?  The 1-year warranty may not be worth the price difference between that item and the one that you might stumble across on eBay, Facebook, Craigslist, Offerup, etc.

Toyota-esque resale prices notwithstanding (depending on the tool), it's probably not what people are thinking of or looking for when purchasing direct from the manufacturer on a "factory reconditioned" tool.

The packing quality (or lack thereof) certainly doesn't help matters.  That's another place where some of our online retailers tend to shine: the extra care they take to add internal packing to the systainer to ensure a tool arrives in good shape.

I get the feeling that there are some pros who buy from Recon, possibly to supplement their stock, but I have a feeling that if I ever make the turn from "hobbyist" to "making a living with my tools", my cost-benefit will likely drive me to retail purchases for the extra warranty (and because I can depreciate a small percentage of the cost over time).
I’m pretty happy with all my recon purchases, but I don’t really use the tools professionally. The C18, that I have bought brand new, needed repair after a year or so. Recently the right angle attachment fell apart, and seems like the plastic part is damaged, so that would need replacement. That’s the only tool, that I abuse really and it doesn’t take it very well

The T18-Easy I just bought from recon has a wobbling chuck, so I would probably have to send it for repair..

Some stuff is really not worth it, especially since they reduced the discount to 20% on some items. They are some sites that you can get stuff without tax, which makes the price difference negligible.

Offline squall_line

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Re: Festool Recon Topic (compiled)
« Reply #619 on: July 20, 2021, 07:38 AM »
LS 130 EQ Linear Detail Sander is posted.

A number of new items up this morning; yesterday's leftovers got moved to the back of the line.

Offline squall_line

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Re: Festool Recon Topic (compiled)
« Reply #620 on: July 20, 2021, 07:47 AM »
HL 850 E Planer is posted

Offline squall_line

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Re: Festool Recon Topic (compiled)
« Reply #621 on: July 20, 2021, 08:24 AM »
RAS 115 sold pretty quickly.  DF 700 (Plus, not Set) was listed, and like with the Vac-Sys last week, was sold out by the time I hit the "Pay" button.

We're now on the Cordless Orbital Sander RTSC 400 Li 3,1-Set (with the mains adapter and Sys-Combi), which happens to be the first tool I ever purchased from Recon back in the day.

Again, Cordless Orbital Sander RTSC 400 Li 3,1-Set is now posted.

Offline GoingMyWay

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Re: Festool Recon Topic (compiled)
« Reply #622 on: July 20, 2021, 10:52 AM »
Carvex PSB 420 EBQ Jigsaw just posted.
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Re: Festool Recon Topic (compiled)
« Reply #623 on: July 20, 2021, 11:57 AM »
HK 55 EQ-F-Plus imperial just posted.
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Offline Godfather

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Re: Festool Recon Topic (compiled)
« Reply #624 on: July 21, 2021, 07:00 AM »
Ro150 is up

Offline squall_line

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Re: Festool Recon Topic (compiled)
« Reply #625 on: July 21, 2021, 07:44 AM »
After the RO 150 sold, the ETS 150/5 also sold.

TSC 55 REB-F-LiPlus imperial is now posted.

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Re: Festool Recon Topic (compiled)
« Reply #626 on: July 21, 2021, 07:45 AM »
Scratch that, Multi-Mode Sander ROTEX RO 125 FEQ-Plus is up

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Re: Festool Recon Topic (compiled)
« Reply #627 on: July 21, 2021, 09:08 AM »
Cordless Screw Gun DURADRIVE DWC 18-4500 Li 3,1-Compact is up.
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Re: Festool Recon Topic (compiled)
« Reply #628 on: July 22, 2021, 09:12 AM »
Conturo KA 65 Portable Edge Bander is currently up.
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Offline guybo

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Re: Festool Recon Topic (compiled)
« Reply #629 on: July 23, 2021, 07:22 AM »
Pick an item add to cart [big grin].guy