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Offline pettyconstruction

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Door build
« on: March 14, 2021, 04:19 PM »
I didn’t want to muddy the Domino debate on the other post,so here is my question.
 
The Boss(Wife) wants a pantry and a pantry door.
I figured I would just build the door.
It’s a 2’ by 6’8” with a glass insert.

I have a Domino 500 and haven’t had the need for a 700.

My question is : can I get a good connection with the smaller dominos? My thought is to use more of them.
Or should I make some longer Domino’s and use a mortise bit after the Domino machine makes the initial mortise ?
Thanks in advance ,
Charlie




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Offline Svar

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Re: Door build
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2021, 04:47 PM »
That's subtle. Translation: "I want DF700".  [big grin]
But back to the question. I think for interior doors smaller dominos and more of them will be just fine.

Offline Birdhunter

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Re: Door build
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2021, 04:53 PM »
This is a golden opportunity to acquire a 700. These opportunities are rare. Jump on it.
Birdhunter

Offline Cheese

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Re: Door build
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2021, 05:03 PM »
For the glass insert, consider sticking to a single pane of thinner tempered glass to keep the weight of the door down.

Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Door build
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2021, 05:12 PM »
For the glass insert, consider sticking to a single pane of thinner tempered glass to keep the weight of the door down.

Or split the glass panel in two and add a center rail in order to increase the number of joints 50% for the added strength.

Offline Alex

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Re: Door build
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2021, 05:17 PM »
DF500 seems really to small to me for a door. Get the chisels out and make mortise and tenons.


Offline pettyconstruction

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Re: Door build
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2021, 06:52 PM »
Thanks folks,
Unfortunately a DF-700 is off the table,I haven’t had the work to pencil it out. I surely would get one if I had the work.

As far as the glass,it will be just the top 3rd do the door and will be 1/8” tempered glass held in with a trim liege on the inside of the door.

I need maybe a dozen mortises, and am leaning on the Domino for placement and a mortise bit. I can make the dominos .

What’s the thinking, is a 10mm Domino big enough?

I’m thinking about a staggered Domino placement .
Thanks,
Charlie.
Btw I do have a drill press so maybe that’s the answer.


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Offline Michael Kellough

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Re: Door build
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2021, 07:21 PM »
Thanks folks,
Unfortunately a DF-700 is off the table,I haven’t had the work to pencil it out. I surely would get one if I had the work.

As far as the glass,it will be just the top 3rd do the door and will be 1/8” tempered glass held in with a trim liege on the inside of the door.

I need maybe a dozen mortises, and am leaning on the Domino for placement and a mortise bit. I can make the dominos .

What’s the thinking, is a 10mm Domino big enough?

I’m thinking about a staggered Domino placement .
Thanks,
Charlie.
Btw I do have a drill press so maybe that’s the answer.


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For what?

What is the thickness of the rail/stile stock? That usually determines the size of Domino.

Do you have to match an existing cabinet style? If so what are the dimensions you’ll be using for the above stock?

If you don’t have to match something else you can increase the height of the rails and stack Dominoes.
For a tall door it’s not unheard of to have four rails. The more the stronger.

On the other hand, since most of the door is not glass there is the opportunity to use the insert panel as  a sheer panel, if it can be made of veneered ply or MDF and be secured glued in place.

Offline woodferret

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Re: Door build
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2021, 08:55 PM »
10mm domino isn't 'deep' enough.  It's the bending moment that the tenon glue area needs to work against.  A short tenon amplifies that shear force. Either drill press or hand router a deep mortise.  Floating tenon or hand cut doesn't matter as much.

Offline RustE

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Re: Door build
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2021, 10:41 PM »
I’m thinking the same as woodferret, engagement length.

What about this:
https://www.rockler.com/3-8-beadlock-basic-starter-kit

I’ve looked at both the above and the ‘Pro’ version for the times when the DF500 isn’t quite enough.

Offline Jim Metzger

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Re: Door build
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2021, 11:47 AM »
I'm assuming paint grade. I'd assemble the door with biggest domino's you can then drill (1) or (2) 3/8" diameter holes at each rail and stile joint and drive in wood dowels.