Author Topic: Does the North American AGC 18 ship with a 5” guard or a 4-1/2” guard? (Read 8021 times)

yetihunter · « **on:** July 13, 2020, 12:18 AM »

The bare tool says 115 at the end and the kit says 125 at the end.
Where I come from (planet earth) that translates to the bare tool shipping with a 4-1/2” guard and the kit shipping with a 5” guard. I find that really hard to believe. At 8400 rpm, this is technically both a 5” and a 4-1/2” grinder but I am indeed at the mercy of the size guards you supply soooo...what size is this grinder?

Jiggy Joiner · « **Reply #1 on:** July 13, 2020, 06:35 AM »

I’m almost certain the grinder is offered in 115mm and 125mm models.

yetihunter · « **Reply #2 on:** July 13, 2020, 10:45 AM »

Quote from: Jiggy Joiner on July 13, 2020, 06:35 AM

I’m almost certain the grinder is offered in 115mm and 125mm models.

The Fein is distinctly sold as both. I have a suspicion that the AGC-18 is sold as 115mm here and 125mm everywhere else.

yetihunter · « **Reply #3 on:** July 13, 2020, 10:57 AM »

The 125 designation is parroted across the online retailers. The catalog just calls it the AGC-18 and specifies 4-1/2”.

Alex · « **Reply #4 on:** July 13, 2020, 11:10 AM »

In Europe all small grinders are only available in 125 mm from Festool.

I sincerely doubt they would make a different product category for the USA only and offer a 115 mm version.

I think somebody made a mistake somewhere when entering data in a computer and now everybody is repeating it.

Good catch, and for the Americans certainly something to get to the bottom to.

SRSemenza · « **Reply #5 on:** July 13, 2020, 01:41 PM »

Mabey @DerickC could look into this.

Seth

yetihunter · « **Reply #6 on:** July 13, 2020, 02:21 PM »

Quote from: Alex on July 13, 2020, 11:10 AM

In Europe all small grinders are only available in 125 mm from Festool.

I sincerely doubt they would make a different product category for the USA only and offer a 115 mm version.

I think somebody made a mistake somewhere when entering data in a computer and now everybody is repeating it.

Good catch, and for the Americans certainly something to get to the bottom to.

That's the rub, they did go out of the way to include a 5/8' threaded spindle because they had to. While I prefer 5", and am aware that that is the most common in any of the outside countries I'm familiar with, 4-1/2" (115) is the most common in the states. To the extent that I have to order anything 5" and all you can find at the homeowner stores is 4-1/2" and maybe 7' if you're lucky. Thankfully one of the chains, Menards, sells PFERD SG (but, again, mostly only 4-1/2"). Thanks to COVID, local suppliers currently have hours that make it impossible to to get to before or after work.

DeformedTree · « **Reply #7 on:** July 13, 2020, 04:31 PM »

I hope you find resolution.

So checking out the website, yeah, it's pretty mind blowing. You select cutting and it takes you to just this grinder, skips a level. But then you have basic and plus package, and it list different size grinders.....

I'm straight up confused if there is 1 size in the US or both.

While I get that Festool decided to make something more N.A. friendly by making it 4-1/2, it feels like a missed opportunity to harmonize the USA with the world, and just offer the 125 with the same wheels as the rest of the world. Festool should be working to get the US to match the world, not caving to the US. In this case, they could have just flooded stores with 125 consumable stuff at a really good price to make resistance low and maybe get other manufactures to follow. It's not like everyone doesn't all ready make it for the rest of the world, not hard to just start shipping some to the US and Canada.

yetihunter · « **Reply #8 on:** July 13, 2020, 04:50 PM »

It's ok, I always have a back up plan.

https://www.fein.tools/Fein-4-12-Safety-Guard-_p_426.html

https://www.fein.tools/Fein-5-Safety-Guard-_p_427.html

jonnyrocket · « **Reply #9 on:** July 13, 2020, 04:53 PM »

I purchased the bare tool and can confirm that it is only the 4 1/2” guard that comes in the box as the bare tool. Also note that it is the open faced guard.

jonnyrocket · « **Reply #10 on:** July 13, 2020, 05:07 PM »

In digging through my owners manual, it never mentions anything other than 4 1/2” as the capacity.

Alex · « **Reply #11 on:** July 13, 2020, 05:46 PM »

Quote from: DeformedTree on July 13, 2020, 04:31 PM

, and just offer the 125 with the same wheels as the rest of the world. Festool should be working to get the US to match the world, not caving to the US.

115 is also a much used size here. Though it tends to be on the cheaper DIY models, and most professional tools are 125, but most of the time you can also get a 115 guard for them.

I do not understand the need for a 115 at all, it's just too small, even the 125 isn't that big, and the extra cutting depth over the 115 is well needed.

Here you can also get grinders in sizes 150, 180, 210, 230, 260 and even 320 mm.

DerickC · « **Reply #12 on:** July 16, 2020, 11:47 AM »

Quote from: SRSemenza on July 13, 2020, 01:41 PM

Mabey @DerickC could look into this.

Seth

The AGC 18 is only 115mm in the North American market. We are looking into the listing on the site so it can be corrected.

yetihunter · « **Reply #13 on:** July 26, 2020, 01:19 AM »

Quote from: Alex on July 13, 2020, 05:46 PM

Quote from: DeformedTree on July 13, 2020, 04:31 PM
, and just offer the 125 with the same wheels as the rest of the world. Festool should be working to get the US to match the world, not caving to the US.

115 is also a much used size here. Though it tends to be on the cheaper DIY models, and most professional tools are 125, but most of the time you can also get a 115 guard for them.

I do not understand the need for a 115 at all, it's just too small, even the 125 isn't that big, and the extra cutting depth over the 115 is well needed.

Here you can also get grinders in sizes 150, 180, 210, 230, 260 and even 320 mm.

I can’t change the fact that for whatever reason 4-1/2” is the most popular size in the US (by a long shot). Most general hardware stores and retail chains only carry 4-1/2” cut off wheels and grinding discs. I agree, that anything under 5” is bogus. I used the Festool grinder for a couple of hours on Friday. It’s worthy enough that I’ll order the 5” Fein guard for it.

Cheese · « **Reply #14 on:** May 25, 2023, 10:34 AM »

FWIW...for those interested in running 5" wheels on the AGC 18, here are the part numbers for the Fein 5" guards that fit the AGC.

Does the North American AGC 18 ship with a 5” guard or a 4-1/2” guard?

Here's the 4-1/2" Festool guard on the left and the 5" Fein guard on the right.

The Fein guard installed with a 5" Cubitron cut off disc.

festal · « **Reply #15 on:** May 28, 2023, 04:55 PM »

@Cheese do you have the link of where you ordered it from?

Cheese · « **Reply #16 on:** May 28, 2023, 06:33 PM »

Quote from: festal on May 28, 2023, 04:55 PM

@Cheese do you have the link of where you ordered it from?

Ya I got them from Zoro…I also have a 20% off code that I’ll post later after I’ve cooked dinner.

festal · « **Reply #17 on:** May 28, 2023, 06:52 PM »

Quote from: Cheese on May 28, 2023, 06:33 PM

Quote from: festal on May 28, 2023, 04:55 PM
@Cheese do you have the link of where you ordered it from?

Ya I got them from Zoro…I also have a 20% off code that I’ll post later after I’ve cooked dinner.

thank you

Cheese · « **Reply #18 on:** May 28, 2023, 10:07 PM »

Here's the Fein 63811017010 version that fits the Festool.

https://www.zoro.com/fein-safety-guard-cut-off-discs-5-63811017010/i/G5424308/?q=fein%2063811017010

A search will come up with the other guard.

And here's the 20% discount code. JSCL0PWT20AB916K1 It ends May 28th. Zoro has a ton of other items that may be of interest. I recently ordered some Pferd files from them and they are brilliant.

festal · « **Reply #19 on:** May 29, 2023, 07:17 AM »

Quote from: Cheese on May 28, 2023, 10:07 PM

Here's the Fein 63811017010 version that fits the Festool.

https://www.zoro.com/fein-safety-guard-cut-off-discs-5-63811017010/i/G5424308/?q=fein%2063811017010

A search will come up with the other guard.

And here's the 20% discount code. JSCL0PWT20AB916K1 It ends May 28th. Zoro has a ton of other items that may be of interest. I recently ordered some Pferd files from them and they are brilliant.

Thank you. Looks like its out of stock and i guess coupon expired lol

Cheese · « **Reply #20 on:** May 31, 2023, 03:23 PM »

Quote from: festal on May 29, 2023, 07:17 AM

Thank you. Looks like its out of stock and i guess coupon expired lol

If you're still interested in the 5" guards, here's the current 20% discount code from Zoro, JNM20AZ691G4 it expires on 6/15/23. Zoro is the cheapest around even without the discount. The Fein store on Amazon is asking $85 for the shallow guard.

My Zoro guards were actually drop shipped from Fein so I'd just order from Zoro & add the discount code and you're locked in, especially now that you've purchased the AGC.

festal · « **Reply #21 on:** May 31, 2023, 05:22 PM »

Quote from: Cheese on May 31, 2023, 03:23 PM

Quote from: festal on May 29, 2023, 07:17 AM
Thank you. Looks like its out of stock and i guess coupon expired lol

If you're still interested in the 5" guards, here's the current 20% discount code from Zoro, JNM20AZ691G4 it expires on 6/15/23. Zoro is the cheapest around even without the discount. The Fein store on Amazon is asking $85 for the shallow guard.

My Zoro guards were actually drop shipped from Fein so I'd just order from Zoro & add the discount code and you're locked in, especially now that you've purchased the AGC.

Thank you. Ordered it. ah i see you ordered 2 guards. one half and one full. thats the difference in pricing lol

festal · « **Reply #22 on:** June 01, 2023, 03:04 PM »

Quote from: Cheese on May 31, 2023, 03:23 PM

Quote from: festal on May 29, 2023, 07:17 AM
Thank you. Looks like its out of stock and i guess coupon expired lol

If you're still interested in the 5" guards, here's the current 20% discount code from Zoro, JNM20AZ691G4 it expires on 6/15/23. Zoro is the cheapest around even without the discount. The Fein store on Amazon is asking $85 for the shallow guard.

My Zoro guards were actually drop shipped from Fein so I'd just order from Zoro & add the discount code and you're locked in, especially now that you've purchased the AGC.

well that didn't go too well lol. Just got an cancellation email. Both items were cancelled without any explanation

Cheese · « **Reply #23 on:** June 01, 2023, 03:31 PM »

Quote from: festal on June 01, 2023, 03:04 PM

well that didn't go too well lol. Just got an cancellation email. Both items were cancelled without any explanation

Well that's unfortunate...

...the 5" grinding guard specifies "Ships in 3 business days"

https://www.zoro.com/fein-safety-hood-31810300000/i/G7555327/?q=31810300000

While the 5" cut-off wheel guard specifies "Item has extended lead time"

https://www.zoro.com/fein-safety-guard-cut-off-discs-5-63811017010/i/G5424308/?q=fein%2063811017010

Hmmm, the 6" cut-off wheel guard also specifies "Item has extended lead time"

https://www.zoro.com/fein-safety-guard-cut-off-discs-6-63811018010/i/G5423958/?recommended=true

Cheese · « **Reply #24 on:** September 18, 2023, 12:09 PM »

FWIW...I just received the 6" guard that I'm using with a 6" cutoff blade. All the guard engagement notches are in the same position as the 4-1/2" & 5" guards, however the top center notch is about 1 to 1.5 mm longer. To install the 6" guard I used a taper drift to shorten the center notch.

So in order of appearance is the 6"...5"....4-1/2" cutoff discs along with a 5" Cubitron grinding disc that I use for lawnmower blade, axe/hatchet blade and shovel cutting edge sharpening.

festal · « **Reply #25 on:** September 24, 2023, 10:12 AM »

Thanks @Cheese any new zoro coupons? going to attempt to order it again.

Can you explain the taper drift usage for 6" guard?
All 3 are showing Limited stock ships in 3 days so maybe this time they will ship it.
Also how do you mount 5/8"-11 thread stuff on the festool grinder? want to get a wire wheel for it

Cheese · « **Reply #26 on:** September 24, 2023, 11:07 AM »

Quote from: festal on September 24, 2023, 10:12 AM

1. Thanks @Cheese any new zoro coupons? going to attempt to order it again.

2. Can you explain the taper drift usage for 6" guard?
All 3 are showing Limited stock ships in 3 days so maybe this time they will ship it.
3. Also how do you mount 5/8"-11 thread stuff on the festool grinder? want to get a wire wheel for it

1. That's unfortunate because I had a 25% coupon that expired 3 days ago.

Here's a 15% one that expires on October 6th...MKEA15DMTR2H8Z

2. I'm just making the center protruding notch shallower & smaller so that it slides on the collar. Here are a couple of photos.

3. The wire wheels just thread on the spindle because it's 5/8-11 thread. Here are some Pferd wire wheels that I may have also purchased from Zoro.

festal · « **Reply #27 on:** September 24, 2023, 11:10 AM »

Thank you @Cheese weird that i don't get coupons from zoro. i did sign up.
I thought AGC 18 had M14 mount on it not 5/8"-11. brain fart
Not in a hurry so I can wait for bigger discount code lol

rvieceli · « **Reply #28 on:** September 24, 2023, 11:36 AM »

@festal sometimes if you are signed into Zoro and put stuff in your cart but don’t complete your purchase, they will send you a coupon code for 15 to 20% off to bring you back.

Ron

festal · « **Reply #29 on:** September 28, 2023, 08:49 AM »

tried, didn't work. they are not sending me anything lol

@Cheese if you get any "big" coupons for them , please post