Author Topic: Converting a 110v CMS basic into a 240v CMS basic (UK) (Read 5425 times)

zibzab · « **on:** March 09, 2019, 05:49 AM »

Hi, I've seen a 110v CMS basic unit for sale in the UK. Can I purchase a new switch to convert it to 240v? If so, do you know the part number I would need?

Thanks.

zibzab · « **Reply #1 on:** March 09, 2019, 07:54 AM »

Think I've found it!
Part 490068--19-FES498895

GarryMartin · « **Reply #2 on:** March 09, 2019, 08:12 PM »

Spot on.

Order no. 498895, Switch element GB 240V.

Peter_C · « **Reply #3 on:** March 09, 2019, 11:45 PM »

I would be willing to trade you switches and we each pay shipping. I have a 240V switch and need a 110v.

Edit: Here is my switch

Converting a 110v CMS basic into a 240v CMS basic (UK)

zibzab · « **Reply #4 on:** March 10, 2019, 06:20 AM »

Hi Peter, that works for me :-)
Is it the same part number that Garry mentions?

jobsworth · « **Reply #5 on:** March 10, 2019, 12:05 PM »

Guy FYI, the connections are different for the UK and USA. the voltage may be correct but you'll have to change the connections. No biggie go to Home Depot (USA) or B&Q (UK) and they have the replacement connectors

zibzab · « **Reply #6 on:** March 10, 2019, 03:43 PM »

I didn't realise he was from America. I've bought one now.
Thanks.

Whatever · « **Reply #7 on:** August 15, 2020, 04:39 PM »

Quote from: Peter_C on March 09, 2019, 11:45 PM

I would be willing to trade you switches and we each pay shipping. I have a 240V switch and need a 110v.

Edit: Here is my switch
(Attachment Link) (Attachment Link)

I am just converting my 110v cms to 240v, I would really like to see a bigger photo of the wiring connections showing which wires on the plug socket, connect to which tags on that contactor, and which connect to the outlet socket. Also if you still need a 110v contactor I would be happy to ship to the usa, or anywhere in the world.

FestitaMakool · « **Reply #8 on:** August 15, 2020, 07:40 PM »

Hi,

I’m struggling with the same. The switches seems just the same, apparently the spool might consist of thicker wires (as so it looks).

I’m going to ask a local electrician about cross compatibility. There are obviously different series within the same voltage. Some (old) with just flat connectors, the newer has a circuit board and screw connectors.
(I’ll need to find a photo of the wiring later)

110V to the right and 230V to the left:

Whatever · « **Reply #9 on:** August 16, 2020, 05:16 PM »

There difference between the two contactors is to do with the electromagnetic coil which holds the switch in the on position until you either press stop or the power fails. The coil the the 110v switch presumably has a lower resistance to run of 110v supply. As far as I can tell the switching contacts are exactly the same. It might actually be possible to put a resistor in line with the coil on the 110v contactor to make it work on 240v but i’m not planning to try that.

What I wanted to see was the wire up for the spade connector style, because from the photo posted earlier that appears to be different to he newer circuit board design where the load appears to have been spread across all the switch contacts. I have a spade connector type contactor on order.

jobsworth · « **Reply #10 on:** August 18, 2020, 11:17 AM »

Just buy a new switch. I converted a CMS from UK 240-110 US no problems.

Alex · « **Reply #11 on:** August 18, 2020, 01:08 PM »

Quote from: FestitaMakool on August 15, 2020, 07:40 PM

I’m struggling with the same.

Now why would a Norwegian need 110v? Just curious.

FestitaMakool · « **Reply #12 on:** August 18, 2020, 05:31 PM »

Quote from: Alex on August 18, 2020, 01:08 PM

Quote from: FestitaMakool on August 15, 2020, 07:40 PM
I’m struggling with the same.

Now why would a Norwegian need 110v? Just curious.

Nahh.. I need two.. in series

To be fair, it’s one of my purchases I did from a fellow Festool fan; he did exchange the whole switch assembly, so I bought the carcass (including internals) Just to change the switch to convert it to 220V and use it on the MFT/3 and a second one on a another table which I’m working on (slowly..) to accept CMS modules in - work in progress. Posting when ready

And I like to have NVR switches wherever possible.
I have a ton of other framing, carpentry and finishing tasks to do, but small conversion and modifying projects are fun to divert to from time to time. Those “nice to do” ones

Peter_C · « **Reply #13 on:** August 18, 2020, 06:53 PM »

I am still looking for a 110V switch if anyone has one they aren't using...

jobsworth · « **Reply #14 on:** August 18, 2020, 08:32 PM »

order the switch from festool

Whatever · « **Reply #15 on:** August 22, 2020, 03:51 PM »

Quote from: jobsworth on August 18, 2020, 08:32 PM

order the switch from festool

Replacing the whole module is expensive and wasteful, only the contactor needs to be replaced, the issue is confused as on ekat the 110v contactor has the same order number as the 240v one which obviously doesn’t make sense.

jobsworth · « **Reply #16 on:** August 22, 2020, 07:42 PM »

wasnt confusing to me.

I ordered the switch put it on and have been using it ever since.

Only confusing when ya go on the cheap

kanetan · « **Reply #17 on:** February 06, 2023, 08:17 PM »

Hi there, I've got a CT MIDI dust extractor, ETS 125 and a cordless TSC 55, all of them gems.

I'm looking at moving to Japan, and all of my items are 110V.

Am I reading right that I just need to change this switch module to 100V have all of these run at full power when I'm there?

squall_line · « **Reply #18 on:** February 07, 2023, 10:21 AM »

Quote from: kanetan on February 06, 2023, 08:17 PM

Hi there, I've got a CT MIDI dust extractor, ETS 125 and a cordless TSC 55, all of them gems.

I'm looking at moving to Japan, and all of my items are 110V.

Am I reading right that I just need to change this switch module to 100V have all of these run at full power when I'm there?

I don't think it's quite that straightforward. This thread is referring ONLY to the CMS table, which has a mains switch that controls power to a tool such as a router or saw that is mounted in the table.

I don't know what power system Japan uses to be able to guide you on that.

kanetan · « **Reply #19 on:** February 07, 2023, 04:06 PM »

Thank you! I thought this sounded too easy...

jobsworth · « **Reply #20 on:** February 07, 2023, 04:29 PM »

as long as your tools router/TS 55/TS 75 are 240 yea shouldnt be a problem. I went the opposite way from 240- 110V when I lived in the Uk.

warning, that switch isnt inexpensive,

tsmi243 · « **Reply #21 on:** February 07, 2023, 04:46 PM »

Quote from: kanetan on February 06, 2023, 08:17 PM

Hi there, I've got a CT MIDI dust extractor, ETS 125 and a cordless TSC 55, all of them gems.

I'm looking at moving to Japan, and all of my items are 110V.

Am I reading right that I just need to change this switch module to 100V have all of these run at full power when I'm there?

Changing the switch will "fix" the CMS module, so you can run Japanese tools on it.

It will NOT fix the tools themselves.

CharlieWill · « **Reply #22 on:** May 04, 2023, 05:29 PM »

Hi Guys,

I've just acquired a CMS table in the UK, which is 110V. I'm a hobbyist, so I have no real need for 110V. The rest of my kit is 18v or 240V.

I was following this thread and before I buy a 240V switch, I thought I'd ask if anyone has a 240V switch and need to swop it for a 110V switch?

Many thanks,

Charlie