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FESTOOL DISCUSSIONS => Ask Festool => Topic started by: pdlandgang on January 03, 2020, 03:50 PM

Title: Connectors
Post by: pdlandgang on January 03, 2020, 03:50 PM
I have the old Domino with the pins instead of the paddles.  Does this create any kind of problems when drilling the holes for the connectors?
Title: Re: Connectors
Post by: Gregor on January 03, 2020, 05:12 PM
No.
Title: Re: Connectors
Post by: ForumMFG on January 03, 2020, 11:42 PM
Why did festool get rid of the pins?


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Title: Re: Connectors
Post by: Michael Kellough on January 03, 2020, 11:46 PM
Why did festool get rid of the pins?


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The use of pins infringed on Mafell’s product design.
Title: Re: Connectors
Post by: grbmds on January 04, 2020, 01:42 PM
If that's correct, then why do they still use them on the 700XL? Not really important. Just curious.
Title: Re: Connectors
Post by: Michael Kellough on January 04, 2020, 04:10 PM
If that's correct, then why do they still use them on the 700XL? Not really important. Just curious.

Good question.
Title: Re: Connectors
Post by: Birdhunter on January 04, 2020, 06:18 PM
I have both Dominos and the Mafell DD40F doweling machine. The Dominos use paddles and the Mafell doweling machine uses pins.

The Mafell pins allow use of a number of useful attachments and provide exceptional accuracy. The Domino paddles, for me, are easier and faster to position than pins.

I find the Domino’s ability to do narrow/wide mortises the best approach to doing a long series of connectors than does the doweling machine.  The doweling machine is great at jointing two smaller pieces where only two dowels are needed. The precision is perfect the first time every time.
Title: Re: Connectors
Post by: VirTERM on January 05, 2020, 07:04 AM
I have both Dominos and the Mafell DD40F doweling machine. The Dominos use paddles and the Mafell doweling machine uses pins.

The Mafell pins allow use of a number of useful attachments and provide exceptional accuracy. The Domino paddles, for me, are easier and faster to position than pins.

I find the Domino’s ability to do narrow/wide mortises the best approach to doing a long series of connectors than does the doweling machine.  The doweling machine is great at jointing two smaller pieces where only two dowels are needed. The precision is perfect the first time every time.
Isn’t df700 using pins as well? Could it be that having multiple pins was a way around Mafell’s patent?
Title: Re: Connectors
Post by: Birdhunter on January 05, 2020, 11:28 AM
Can’t speak to the patent issue, but having multiple references (pins) is a nice feature as long as one doesn’t get them confused.
Title: Re: Connectors
Post by: grbmds on January 05, 2020, 12:51 PM
My 700XL has pins and is only a couple of years old. As far as I can tell, the 700 still uses pins.
Title: Re: Connectors
Post by: Michael Kellough on January 05, 2020, 12:56 PM
My 700XL has pins and is only a couple of years old. As far as I can tell, the 700 still uses pins.

Pins (retractable round steel dowels) or paddles (retractable flat plastic stops)?
Title: Re: Connectors
Post by: Svar on January 05, 2020, 01:08 PM
My 700XL has pins and is only a couple of years old. As far as I can tell, the 700 still uses pins.
Pins (retractable round steel dowels) or paddles (retractable flat plastic stops)?
DF700 uses metal paddles that flip rather than retract as in old df500.
Title: Re: Connectors
Post by: grbmds on January 05, 2020, 06:34 PM
My 700XL has pins and is only a couple of years old. As far as I can tell, the 700 still uses pins.
Pins (retractable round steel dowels) or paddles (retractable flat plastic stops)?
DF700 uses metal paddles that flip rather than retract as in old df500.

Round steel pins (with the bottom side flat) which retract when not in use. The 700 was purchased about 2 years ago (maybe a little more).